Cienciano wrote: » It's pretty much to promote itself. Ads on tv for livestrong, ads at football matches for it. Advertising "livestrong" is money towards "cancer awareness". And awareness for Livestrong is awareness for Lance. It was money well spend, me and all my friends never knew what cancer was till we saw yellow wristbands on people.
Donelson wrote: » I don't get all this outrage, he is no worse than any other cheat. yes he was a ruthless peace of work. but I seriously doubt the rest of pro cycling are cuddle teddy bears. compare lance to someone like Michael shumacker how deliberately crashed into his opponent to win and in the process risked their lives. would the world be a better place with out this crap, absolute yes! but it is part of human nature.
Fr D Maugire wrote: » If you don't understand why Armstrong is viewed as worse than other dopers, you shouldn't really be commenting then.
Donelson wrote: » you have a very persuasive argument, how could I have been so wrong, I bow to your superior analysis and thank you for enlightening me.
letape wrote: » "Cycling - Schleck believes Armstrong was clean after comeback
''Lance deceived everybody on the planet, us included, so obviously we wanted to believe it also - that he was winning the Tours clean,'' O'Grady said.
Fr D Maugire wrote: » Go and do the research and then you will know why he is viewed as much worse than others. Much of the info is within this thread.
Donelson wrote: » ok, I'll leave it here. I'm sure with time opinions will mellow. will I watch the tour this year, yes, will there be cheats in the race yes. will there be a new lance in the next generation yes, will that person be good enough to win. let's wait and see.
Captain Havoc wrote: » Just finished watching and here's my summary: I did that **** that it's been proven what I did, except the stuff that could get me sent to prison. Bull****, Bull****, Bull****, cancer, Bull****, Bull****, sorry, Bull****, Bull****, cancer, Bull****, Bull****, Bull****, I'm a jerk, Bull****, Bull****, cancer, Bull****, Bull****, Bull****.
Fr D Maugire wrote: » Incredible to think a guy who has lied for so long would go on a TV show to do a confessional and then continue to lie even more.
petethedrummer wrote: » Where does Lance go from here. The admission at the start means that all the defenders/believers/deluded are betrayed or pretending to be betrayed and can't defend him anymore. Anyone who never believed is unhappy with partial admissions. So now he has noone on his side. Poor old Lance. No friends. Even Mathew McCauaghnaheyy will probably desert him.
Fr D Maugire wrote: » No there wont be another Lance in the new generation. There will surely be dopers but not another Lance, there is only one Lance.
RobFowl wrote: » I feel he's made a start and am giving him the benefit of the doubt for the time being. He's finished in cycling but I hope he finds a fulfilling role in life.
ken wrote: » http://www.rte.ie/ten/2013/0119/abramsj.html JJ Abrams has reportedly bought the film rights to a future biography of Lance Armstrong. Deadline reports that the director has teamed up with his Bad Robot partner Bryan Burk with Paramount Pictures to make the purchase. The book, which is called Cycle Of Lies: The Fall Of Lance Armstrong, is at the proposal stage at the moment, and will be written by New York Times reporter Juliet Macur. Macur, who has covered Armstrong's story for over a decade, has signed a deal with HarperCollins for the book.
WhatNowForUs? wrote: » What does cancer awareness mean?. It sounds like a silly question maybe it is but if i give 50 euro to cancer awareness what does people get back fRom it. Should I give it to research instead.
Here's my bottom line. In the autumn of 1993, Greg LeMond and his wife, Kathy, were sitting at home in the suburbs of Minneapolis, when they received a visit from Linda Mooneyham, the three-times Tour de France winner has recalled. Her 21-year-old son, Lance Armstrong, had just become the world champion and she had travelled from her home in Texas for advice. "What does he do now?" she asked. "What does he do with his money?" "Well, let him find an agent – a good one with an attorney," LeMond replied. "And one word of advice – just be his mom." They sat on the porch for a while and then moved inside to the kitchen. Linda had something else on her mind: "How do I make him less of an asshole. He doesn't care about anyone." "Well," LeMond replied. "I can't help you there."
Cienciano wrote: » Love the finish from Kimmage at the bottom of this article:http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jan/19/lance-armstrong-cycling
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » agre ed totally that Lance wasn't the only one and yes lots of people willingly doped but you have to feel sorry for the poor bastards who were pressurised into a lifestyle where if their heart alarm's went off in the middle of the night a 10 minute spin on the rollers was essential if you ever wanted to wake up again in the morning
Ash.J.Williams wrote: » Could you explain this to me? Re heart alarms and rollers
In Matt Rendell's celebrated 2007 book The Death of Marco Pantani, about the Italian Tour de France winner who died (of cocaine use) in 2004, there's an extraordinary account of how riders - presumed to be using EPO - would sleep with heart monitors that would have an alarm in the event their resting heart rate dropped below a dangerous number. They would get up in the middle of the night, jump on their bikes and ride hard, in order to restore their heart rate to a safe level. ''During the day we live to ride, and at night we ride to stay alive,'' was a vivid quote attributed to one rider
Broadcaster Francis Leach put it well when he compared Armstrong to the US financial institutions that were bailed out because they were ''too big to fail''. If Lance went down, so did everyone else. Even those who are pristine will be tainted, of course, in the same way Johnson's fall in 1988 created scepticism in millions of minds about whether anyone at the top was really clean. As with most scandals in the political realm, the questions have turned from ''who did what'' to ''who knew what?''
Hermy wrote: » Blood doping and EPO thickens the blood to such an extent that heart failure may occur during sleep so riders set their alarm clocks to wake them every two hours so they could do some exercise to keep the blood flowing.
