dxhound2005 wrote: » Am Chile wrote: » Section 12 provides that the Revenue Commissioners are not required to establish ownership of a residential property for the purposes of administering the tax or enforcing the provisions of the Act. I was aware of this, many in here seem to be trying their best not to believe it exists. They will all end up paying.
Am Chile wrote: » Section 12 provides that the Revenue Commissioners are not required to establish ownership of a residential property for the purposes of administering the tax or enforcing the provisions of the Act.
bgrizzley wrote: » id be surprised if even FG stooped so low as to take property tax from Childrens allowance. what next, robbing the coins from a dead mans eyes?
barrackali wrote: » If some people won't pay, then the government will use any measures they have to....it will be just taken at your source of income.
dxhound2005 wrote: » Section 12 provides that the Revenue Commissioners are not required to establish ownership of a residential property for the purposes of administering the tax or enforcing the provisions of the Act.
Ghandee wrote: » Oh lads, thats it now so, we better pay up :rolleyes: Explain what that means exactlly lol? (now, I'm no lawyer but bear with me) 'Not required to establish ownership of a residential property for the purposes of administering the tax or enforcing the provisions of the Act' Would that mean, they dont have to prove who owns a house to put the value of the tax on it? Much like a car, based on its engine size/fuel/emissions etc will automatically have a tax band assigned to it, the authorities dont need to find out who actually owns the car, just that if you go to tax it thats what will be owed? Or will it be similar to the 'Dear Home owner, our records show no tv license has been purchased for this property' blah blah blah.... They do not know who owns every tv in the country either, but I'll bet the €160 license fee still applies to them. That the height of their 'threats' ? LOL tbh.They might not need to establish the owner of the house to place the tax on it, but as an educated guess here, they will have to establish the owner to be able to issue a summons to court/deduct from source etc etc etc. Nothing but regurgitated BS once again from someone that seems to have a very vested interest in this tax. (If its any consolation to you, your post pleased your master though;))
bgrizzley wrote: » tax on childrens shoes anyone, anyone?:D
Ghandee wrote: » They might not need to establish the owner of the house to place the tax on it, but as an educated guess here, they will have to establish the owner to be able to issue a summons to court/deduct from source etc etc etc.
dvpower wrote: » They don't need anything. They can just raise an assessment against you based on their best available information. You can appeal that assessment if you want, but then you need to provide evidence as to why the assessment is wrong. If you fail to pay the tax assessed or if you fail to win an appeal, they don't need to establish if the basis of the assessment was correct in the first place in order to collect the tax - the CG will just enforce the collection, they don't need to care why it was assessed in the first place. Obviously you can disregard this information or lol at it if you want, but that doesn't change the facts.
tayto lover wrote: » So you don't believe the Credit Union reports?http://www.thejournal.ie/whats-left-over-1-million-adults-have-less-than-e50-after-bills-418778-Apr2012/ You haven't noticed the increase in Soup Kitchens (i work in one)?http://www.independent.ie/national-news/irelands-new-poor-join-queue-for-food-parcels-2434282.html You haven't spoke to teachers who are saying that kids are coming to school with poor lunches and often have no books?http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0417/survey-finds-increase-in-children-reporting-hunger.html You haven't seen the rise in mortgage arrears?http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1213/breaking16.html You haven't read about people who cannot afford to visit their doctor or buy medicine?http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=17621 Do you want me to go on or are you convinced that all the above are bluffing or exaggerating? Really donal you should get out and about and stop listening to propaganda.
barrackali wrote: » Reminds me of the embarrassing anti-bin tax protest, they can lol all they like. This tax isn't going to magically disappear.
Le_Dieux wrote: » As I said Ghandee, I just cannot figure out if dx is Kenny, Noonan, or that backstabber posing as a leader of the LP. He'll deny it until he's blue in the face, so Your guess is as good as mine.
Big Bad Phil wrote: » More waffle if people are suffering to the hype you claim them out to be why wont they come out and protest hmm.
Ghandee wrote: » Oh yeah, they'll have to do that to 700,000 people?
Ghandee wrote: » Should take them what? 1000 investigations a year would be good going from our trusted PS, so 700 years?
Ghandee wrote: » Get the boat DV, they can threaten me, they can scaremonger, they'll still get the same reply from me, FCUK OFF!
Ghandee wrote: » Welcome back Phil. Do much riding over in Doha did you? Seen your wee trophy in your arms in the paper;)
dvpower wrote: » They raise millions of tax assessments every year. Shouldn't be a problem. You weren't paying attention. There doesn't need to be Revenue investigations. They just raise the assessment and collect the tax. Simples. Its what they do every day, quite successfully. ' suppose that's one kind of plan.
bgrizzley wrote: » the black economy loses the state E5000000000 (5 Billion) in tax every year, if they cant track down that how are they going to track down 70 million in E100's? Pmsl'ing
dvpower wrote: » Granted we do have a bit of a problem with tax evasion in this country - sure some people are willing to proudly proclaim their evasion in public, but I don't see the Property tax being much of a problem to collect; its pretty difficult to hide a house.
Ghandee wrote: » Leave Fidelma out of this discussion for now.
dxhound2005 wrote: » Yes we do live in a democracy much as you despise it. Individual citizens like you and me do not get to decide which taxes are a tax too far. Owning private property and earnestly opposing property tax still does not put you above the law. And like the other tax evaders here you won't be coming along to make good the deductions from Child Benefit or whatever which will surely follow for those that you persuade that it is a tax too far. And they won't be coming to your aid if you are caught first. And yes it did not cause me any hardship to pay €100 last March which will see me through to next July.
Ghandee wrote: » How will they enforce collection from me, just so I'm clear on that one? Will they hold me by the ankles, turn me upside down and shake the coppers from my denims lol?:D
barrackali wrote: » dxhound2005 wrote: » I was aware of this, many in here seem to be trying their best not to believe it exists. They will all end up paying. Blood, stone, frog, feathers etc.
dxhound2005 wrote: » I was aware of this, many in here seem to be trying their best not to believe it exists. They will all end up paying.
