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'Enough is Enough' - Lance Armstrong

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Armstrong Drops Fight Against Doping Charges

“There comes a point in every man’s life when he has to say, ‘Enough is enough,’ ” Armstrong said in a statement.

“The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today — finished with this nonsense.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/sports/cycling/lance-armstrong-ends-fight-against-doping-charges-losing-his-7-tour-de-france-titles.html

Lance's decision means he will be stripped of his seven Tour titles, the bronze medal he won at the 2000 Olympics and all other titles, awards and money he won from August 1998 on.

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detones

Kind of disappointed there were no typical Oprah/Dr. Phil tears by Lance last night, as much as I dreaded the thoughts of it. Guess that will have to wait until tonight. He seemed like a robotic automaton last night showing no real emotion. I guess the talk of his kids and his mamma will have him blubbering like a hungry Oprah after she realises that KFC is closed.

I was kind of thinking it would a strange circumstance if Livestrong (which must have done some good in its time) through its research came up with a cure for a form a cancer. Would this go any way to vindicate Lance. Would the ends have justified the means so to speak. The weight of this achievement outweighing all the bad he has done. On a quick visit to the livestrong website however I could not really figure out what they did! Lot af talk of patient support of awareness but hard to really figure out where all that money really goes . . . . . .

ThisRegard

What research?

detones

ThisRegard wrote: »

What research?

That's my point. Can't really see what they do. I assumed they would have been somehow involved in cancer research.

one man clappin

Excellent article here about the Livestrong foundation here by Bill Gifford.

Beware it is pretty long.

ThisRegard

detones wrote: »

That's my point. Can't really see what they do. I assumed they would have been somehow involved in cancer research.

Mine too, they're an awareness charity.

SHOVELLER

Diarmuid wrote: »

With all due respect, Kimmage has 23 years of calling out cheats and dopers, from Lance to Michelle Smith at great personal expense. You were taken in by a guy, who from that moment on Sestiere in 99, was clearly doping.

I think you should afford Kimmage some respect and at the same time, treat pro cycling with the skeptical eye it deserves.

I'm well aware of his history and I can think for myself thanks.

My point is the way he goes about it. The incessant ramblings. Walsh on the other hand makes his points better.

letape

detones wrote: »

Kind of disappointed there were no typical Oprah/Dr. Phil tears by Lance last night, as much as I dreaded the thoughts of it. Guess that will have to wait until tonight. He seemed like a robotic automaton last night showing no real emotion. I guess the talk of his kids and his mamma will have him blubbering like a hungry Oprah after she realises that KFC is closed.

I was kind of thinking it would a strange circumstance if Livestrong (which must have done some good in its time) through its research came up with a cure for a form a cancer. Would this go any way to vindicate Lance. Would the ends have justified the means so to speak. The weight of this achievement outweighing all the bad he has done. On a quick visit to the livestrong website however I could not really figure out what they did! Lot af talk of patient support of awareness but hard to really figure out where all that money really goes . . . . . .

Cancer awareness and support is where the money is spent. At one point money was also used to fund private research but not now.

I believe the feeling was that what they had to contribute was so small in the context of US and global spend on research that it would not make a difference.

Still a very good cause.

drogdub

drogdub wrote: »

Tour Chats "After-Party" just posted. Might be woth listening to
http://www.tourchats.com/2013/01/show-52-oprah-lance-armstrong-after-party/

Just watched it. Very good. As i watched it I was looking at twitter. the one word that keeps coming up is "lies".

detones

letape wrote: »

Cancer awareness and support is where the money is spent. At one point money was also used to fund private research but not now.

I believe the feeling was that what they had to contribute was so small in the context of US and global spend on research that it would not make a difference.

Still a very good cause.

I'm sure it is and it will probably be the only redeeming aspect of this whole fiasco. I'm new enough to his whole history and that of his charity. But unfortunately everything the now proven liar and cheat was involved in will be questioned.

leftism

Just to recap how the 2009 Tour went down....

Brendan_H

They are getting in a real reporter for part 2.

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kerash

Is that Big Bird?

carpejugulum

The interview would be much shorter if she asked him what he did not take and do.

Neeson

what did jimmy magee say about lance?

enfant terrible

Is it on at 2am ,any links?

Neeson

enfant terrible wrote: »

Is it on at 2am ,any links?

http://ownspecial.oprah.com/lancearmstrong.html

Hermy

Yep, on in a few minutes - just google OWN.

Darkglasses

Waiting for Doprah round two...

Dum de dum de dum...

Those guys from American Chopper have lost a lot of weight...

kumate_champ07

not sure if already mentioned but part 2 can be seen here:
http://www.facebook.com/ownTV/app_486116231434529

starts in a couple of mins, I watched part 1 there last nite, they dont show ads, it just has intermission music for a few mins instead of ads