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David McKittrick; These protests are NOT over the flag.

SoulandForm

Given that he is from an Ulster Protestant background, hardly sympathetic to militant Republicanism and that this is appearing in a mainstream British newspaper I hope that those who have expressed veiled sympathy for the protesters or criticized the Alliance Party for reaching the compromise it did with Nationalism and Republicanism will pay attention to what he has to say.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/these-belfast-riots-arent-over-the-flag--but-the-creation-of-a-fairer-society-8444651.html

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Neutronale

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Neutronale

Happyman42 wrote: »

Absolutely, that is what is going on. The vitriol thrown at David Forde last night was astonishing. Pure unadultered, unreasonable and unthought out hate. Donalson was owned by the guy from Slugger O'Toole's blog but was allowed off the hook by a partisan Nolan imo.
Instead of SF being answerable for this shambles, the media need to focus on the double dealing of the main Unionist parties here to secure their economic and political well-being at the expense of ordinary working class Unionists.

p.s. you could set up a proxy and watch on the iPlayer maybe?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01ptgc9

GRMA

Words fail me.

Boundary wall on Bishops street

They are also encouraging people to bring those flags to the "Unionist Civil Rights" march which they have scheduled to be in opposition, same time and place, to the Bloody Sunday remembrance march

R P McMurphy

GRMA wrote: »

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Words fail me.

Boundary wall on Bishops street

They are also encouraging people to bring those flags to the "Unionist Civil Rights" march which they have scheduled to be in opposition, same time and place, to the Bloody Sunday remembrance march

At the risk of appearing totally Ignorant. What is that flag?

karma_

R P McMurphy wrote: »

At the risk of appearing totally Ignorant. What is that flag?

Parachute regiment.

GRMA

R P McMurphy wrote: »

At the risk of appearing totally Ignorant. What is that flag?

Flag of the paras, few of them up on the boundary wall

oscarBravo

Jesus, that's pretty obnoxious.

junder

oscarBravo wrote: »

Jesus, that's pretty obnoxious.

I would Actully agree that it was a illconcived idea to put para flags up

Neutronale

oscarBravo wrote: »

Jesus, that's pretty obnoxious.

It's only a stupid flag, best ignored...

woodoo

junder wrote: »

I would Actully agree that it was a illconcived idea to put para flags up

:eek: i thought i'd never see the day, not the strongest condemnation i have ever seen but ill-conceived is a start.

P_1

Yikes, do the people behind that idea actually want to drag the North kicking and screaming back to the 1970's? :eek:

Words fail me

NIMAN

P_1 wrote: »

Yikes, do the people behind that idea actually want to drag the North kicking and screaming back to the 1970's? :eek:

Words fail me

Yes I think many genuinely do.

Or if not, its not that they want to go back to the 70s, but they are afraid to go into the future, as they see a future where they are no longer the majority and cannot run the country for their own good.

You've got to wonder that if a large section of NI cannot accept a democratic decision to limit the flying of one single flag, how will they cope with a democratic vote which may happen in a few decades time that may potentially take NI into a United Ireland.

Dub.

junder wrote: »

She got elected as a protest against Robinson, she won't get elected again

Imagine the riots when she does actually get elected again.

Or do you think Peter Robinson will have rediscovered his popularity in east Belfast by then?

junder

Dub. wrote: »

Imagine the riots when she does actually get elected again.

Or do you think Peter Robinson will have rediscovered his popularity in east Belfast by then?

Who knows, but alliance won't be in the running, but At least alliance did one good thing, should alot more unionist loyalist on the election register

Dub.

junder wrote: »

Who knows, but alliance won't be in the running, but At least alliance did one good thing, should alot more unionist loyalist on the election register

So the Loyalists of east Belfast really do love Peter Robinson after all?

Fickle lot, aren`t they?

SoulandForm

Dub. wrote: »

So the Loyalists of east Belfast really do love Peter Robinson after all?

Fickle lot, aren`t they?

Better Peter Robinson than David Vance.

Happyman42

Dub. wrote: »

So the Loyalists of east Belfast really do love Peter Robinson after all?

Fickle lot, aren`t they?

So blind are they, that they don't see who has really let them down. They will just consign themselves to more years of deprivation and unequal oppurtunities. There is nobody in the DUP and the UUP fighting their corner.

Dub.

SoulandForm wrote: »

Better Peter Robinson than David Vance.

You support Robinson over Naomi Long?

SoulandForm

Dub. wrote: »

You support Robinson over Naomi Long?

No.

When I have voted I voted for the Workers Party but voting for Naomi Long doesnt seem such a bad idea now.

David Vance is TUV and is incredibly racist against Haitians and Palestinians. He will do well out the flegs mess but so will hopefully Naomi Long.

SoulandForm

I support the Workers Party with big reservations, after that I would be sympathetic to the IRSP and the Communist Party but again with grave reservations. I do think the Alliance Party has a lot of good people in it.

SoulandForm

GRMA wrote: »

They are also encouraging people to bring those flags to the "Unionist Civil Rights" march which they have scheduled to be in opposition, same time and place, to the Bloody Sunday remembrance march

The flags have gone down in the Fountain removed by residents.

There is a particular family that has a nasty presence there.

Happyman42

And the rioting has stopped? Or it has stopped being reported anyway.
Now, has a deal been done, or is it just because the weather has taken a turn for the colder?
I honestly don't think we will be talking about this issue in a few months.

Thomas_I

SoulandForm wrote: »

I support the Workers Party with big reservations, after that I would be sympathetic to the IRSP and the Communist Party but again with grave reservations. I do think the Alliance Party has a lot of good people in it.

By your big and grave reservations towards these parties, I wonder why do you support them anyway?

junder

SoulandForm wrote: »

I support the Workers Party with big reservations, after that I would be sympathetic to the IRSP and the Communist Party but again with grave reservations. I do think the Alliance Party has a lot of good people in it.

You support the workers party who are close political friends of the PUP and are sympathetic to the political representatives of drug dealers, confused much?

Neutronale

Happyman42 wrote: »

And the rioting has stopped? Or it has stopped being reported anyway.
Now, has a deal been done, or is it just because the weather has taken a turn for the colder?
I honestly don't think we will be talking about this issue in a few months.

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Happyman42

I call bull**** on their 365 days a year for the last 100 years too.
How to shoot yourself in the foot over and over again.

GRMA

SoulandForm wrote: »

I support the Workers Party with big reservations, after that I would be sympathetic to the IRSP and the Communist Party but again with grave reservations. I do think the Alliance Party has a lot of good people in it.

How does that work?

SoulandForm

GRMA wrote: »

How does that work?

They are both Republican Socialists.

SoulandForm

junder wrote: »

You support the workers party who are close political friends of the PUP and are sympathetic to the political representatives of drug dealers, confused much?

How on earth is an non-sectarian Republican Socialist party close political friends with a sectarian Imperialist monarchist party?

Thomas_I

SoulandForm wrote: »

They are both Republican Socialists.

Republican Socialism by Communist parties is a farce, except if they openly delcare that they are really not democratic, which they won´t do.