thebman wrote: » Thing that confuses me is how does flying the flag on the same days they do in the rest of Britain making the place less British? Isn't it making it more British?
SoulandForm wrote: » David McKittrick; These protests are NOT over the flag.
clairefontaine wrote: » I don't understand why they didnt put two flags up, one loyalist, one republican or whatever you call it, and leave them both up all year round. OR as part of the peace process, they should have designed a new flag altogether. Symbols are important but this could have easily been avoided.
jonsnow wrote: » Damn right its not about the flag.It about the UVF/UDA commanders warning the British government that they can still drag the north back into anarchy if the Historical Enquiries team get any grand notions.
sure joe wrote: » as i see it flag comes down republicans 1 - 0 unionists unionists attack their own police force republicans 2 -0 unionists just waiting for police to attack unionist riotes like they would repulicans. then we have a hatrick
By Aine Fox Published on Thursday 10 January 2013 20:21 Almost half of the people living in Ireland - combining Northern Ireland and the Republic - believe it was wrong to limit the number of days the Union flag flies at Belfast City Hall. Just 36 per cent of those living in Dublin agree with the decision made by Belfast City councillors on December 3, which preceded six months of protests and riots on the streets of Northern Ireland. Forty-eight per cent branded the decision incorrect. An average of 46 per cent altogether across Ireland said they felt the flag should not have been removed, to fly only on designated days. The Red C opinion poll for Paddy Power asked people across Leinster, Munster, Connacht and Ulster if they agreed with the decision. An average of 18 per cent said they did not know. And 44 per cent of Sinn Fein voters - whose party had originally called for the flag to be removed entirely - said they felt the decision was wrong.
Jelle1880 wrote: » FYI, the PSNI has repeatedly attacked protesters while leaving the brick-throwing idiots from the Republican side alone.
Jelle1880 wrote: » No, but it paints a different picture than that which sure joe is trying to paint (that of the PSNI going soft on Loyalists as opposed to their response against Republicans).
Jelle1880 wrote: » Well you seemed to claim that the PSNI don't attack loyalists like they do republicans, apologies if that was misunderstood.
Jelle1880 wrote: » FYI, the PSNI has repeatedly attacked protesters while leaving the brick-throwing idiots from the Republican side alone. They also seem to think it's a marvellous idea to guide protesters back home past areas like the Short Strand.
SoulandForm wrote: » Why have they allowed the Loyalists night after night to block roads without taking them off the roads as they did with the residents of Ardoyne to allow the Orange Order which celebrates anti-RC pogroms to pass by?
Jelle1880 wrote: » You think officers are getting injured because they're allowing it to happen ?
junder wrote: » Poor pet indeed, still, she's the one blocking the roads up here along with many like her.
Jelle1880 wrote: » They've been at it pretty much every night to get those blockades gone, which leads to rioting.
Jelle1880 wrote: » That's your opinion, not fact. And I think it's an idiotic one at best, nobody apart from dissidents are trying to get NI back to those times.
Cavehill Red wrote: » And that's your opinion too. I think the UVF's involvement in attempting to destabilise the North is of enormous concern, and no less threatening to peace than the activities of dissident Republicans, arguably moreso, given the apparent support they are garnering from the school dropouts in their community.
Jelle1880 wrote: » That's your opinion, not fact. And I think it's an idiotic one at best, nobody apart from dissidents are trying to get NI back to those times. As for 'going soft' ? I don't know about you but 100 arrests, using water cannons and plastic bullets is not my definition of 'soft policing'.
Jelle1880 wrote: » There is no proof that this is an orchestrated operation by the UVF (or the UDA, as claimed by others).
blahfckingblah wrote: » enlighten us so if it is such a ridiculous opinion as to why they are continuing to hold a city to siege, disrupt day to day life, ruin homes businesses and property,and damage their economy??
Jelle1880 wrote: » It's not simply about that flag anymore, but about lack of education, a feeling of abandonment by the government, unemployment,....
Jelle1880 wrote: » That has been mentioned in other threads as well: It's not simply about that flag anymore, but about lack of education, a feeling of abandonment by the government, unemployment,... You'll see it happen in every country where a significant amount of the youth has the same worries which I just mentioned. But because we're talking about Northern Ireland it automatically means (to some) that they want a return to The Troubles ? Nonsense. As for evidence that the UVF is behind this, care to show it ? Because I don't see it anywhere here.
