Jelle1880 wrote: » No, but it paints a different picture than that which sure joe is trying to paint (that of the PSNI going soft on Loyalists as opposed to their response against Republicans).
Jelle1880 wrote: » FYI, the PSNI has repeatedly attacked protesters while leaving the brick-throwing idiots from the Republican side alone.
sure joe wrote: » as i see it flag comes down republicans 1 - 0 unionists unionists attack their own police force republicans 2 -0 unionists just waiting for police to attack unionist riotes like they would repulicans. then we have a hatrick
By Aine Fox Published on Thursday 10 January 2013 20:21 Almost half of the people living in Ireland - combining Northern Ireland and the Republic - believe it was wrong to limit the number of days the Union flag flies at Belfast City Hall. Just 36 per cent of those living in Dublin agree with the decision made by Belfast City councillors on December 3, which preceded six months of protests and riots on the streets of Northern Ireland. Forty-eight per cent branded the decision incorrect. An average of 46 per cent altogether across Ireland said they felt the flag should not have been removed, to fly only on designated days. The Red C opinion poll for Paddy Power asked people across Leinster, Munster, Connacht and Ulster if they agreed with the decision. An average of 18 per cent said they did not know. And 44 per cent of Sinn Fein voters - whose party had originally called for the flag to be removed entirely - said they felt the decision was wrong.
clairefontaine wrote: » I don't understand why they didnt put two flags up, one loyalist, one republican or whatever you call it, and leave them both up all year round. OR as part of the peace process, they should have designed a new flag altogether. Symbols are important but this could have easily been avoided.
jonsnow wrote: » Damn right its not about the flag.It about the UVF/UDA commanders warning the British government that they can still drag the north back into anarchy if the Historical Enquiries team get any grand notions.
SoulandForm wrote: » David McKittrick; These protests are NOT over the flag.
thebman wrote: » Thing that confuses me is how does flying the flag on the same days they do in the rest of Britain making the place less British? Isn't it making it more British?
sure joe wrote: » if a person is born and bred in england and have irish ancestors. they might like to think they are irish but the fact of the matter is that they are english
sure joe wrote: » who are the idiots dictating that she is irish becase they say so. if she was born and bred in ireland then that is what dictates she is irish. if a person is born and bred in england and have irish ancestors. they might like to think they are irish but the fact of the matter is that they are english
Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: » Surely that's a cynical way of looking at things, but in the absence of any better explanation it's not an unreasonable viewpoint
sure joe wrote: » but to them its not just a flag it was a symbol of their control. something to let the irish know who was the boss. this is why they are making such a big deal because their power is eroding
Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: » I fail to see how bringing the flying of the flag over a civic building into line with the rest of the UK is an attack on the PUL people's culture. It's certainly no excuse to grind entire cities to a standstill like what happened to Belfast tonight. It really seems to me that those protesting are simply unhappy that the days of the northern orange state are well and truly over and 'the other side' now get a say in how the place is administered. You may see that as me 'pouring scorn' on the people taking part but really I can't see any good reason to cause so much trouble over something so trivial. For feck sake it's a flag!
junder wrote: » DUP are not behind this, Infact they are ****ting themselves that the list control, deride the all you want but these protests are coming from the people not political party's, some personalitys are trying to hijack things for its own ends, but they will fail. Post all you want on the Internet pour as much scorn as you like on the people taking part but it won't change anything and its not going to stop them.
junder wrote: » Because she is fed up with the continued and systematic assault on the British identity, not only are her symbols, but her culture is being denied, she is not even allowed the dignity of defining her own cultural and national identity without idiots dictating to her that she is Irish because they say so
woodoo wrote: » I don't really agree with the point scoring. I want to see real equality in northern Ireland. I don't have a problem with your average unionist. I do have a problem with loyalist bigoted thugs though.
sure joe wrote: » can you imagine how ridiculous it is for unionist to riot because the union flag is only being flown for the same number of days as the rest of the u.k. if unionist are struggling with this concept. then imagine living under this flag when it is the one represnting a people and country that has oppressed your people for hundreds of years. imagine living in your own country the country of your forefathers and having this oppressors flag shoved down your throat at every turn.
karma_ wrote: » It's a shame that it took the taking down of a single flag to provoke her into action when she and many others like her could have protested years ago about the absolutely abhorrent state school system that young protestants have to endure up here. And that's just one example. How long have the DUP been failing working class protestant communities now? Yet still voters ignore actual issues and vote for them in election after election. The fact is this was a non-issue from the get go and the DUP have used this girl for political gain whilst failing her at the same time. If it wasn't so utterly pathetic it would be funny.
