Cienciano wrote: » The start of operation damage limitation begins! Don't forgive Lance for him, do it for the millions of cancer sufferers out there!
leftism wrote: » If he confesses and uses the C-word in any way to justify his actions, .
feck sake lads wrote: » Ah to be honest i loved watching him drugs or no drugs he's still a super bike rider.
feck sake lads wrote: » ...he's still a super bike rider.
ballygowan1 wrote: » Without drugs you will find him an average bike rider. So you are so very wrong there fanboy
Seweryn wrote: » As good as me . He won the same number of TdF stages as I have .
RobFowl wrote: » He has got 2 still on record afaik
feck sake lads wrote: » yeah course you are your just playing with words, i'm not been a smart ass lads honest but give me a break he was a class act you can not take that from him. yeah easy to kick a man when he's down but for me he was the fecking greatest rider the world has ever seen well except for sean kelly.:)
Surinam wrote: » Sean Kelly doped too............are all your idols like this?
feck sake lads wrote: » i'm not been a smart ass lads honest but give me a break he was a class act you can not take that from him.
resdubwhite wrote: » Class act? you don't read much do you? Re him being a great rider without the drugs. We'll never know. Drugs and their affects on people don't create a level playing field as different drugs give different benefits.
Raymzor wrote: » Prior to 1999 Armstrongs Grand Tour achievements were not hugely impressive. this gives an understanding of his ability as a Grand Tour Rider on "bread and water"?
wonderfullife wrote: » I just find his lawyer funny. Trots out the "500-600 tests passed" line every 2 mins and now asked will lance confess, just shrugs his shoulders!! Meh maybe! Anyway i have a fundamental problem with the idea a confession only comes if he can strike a deal with prosecutors to avoid the perjury charges. If jail was good enough for Marion Jones it's good enough for Lance.
resdubwhite wrote: » If WADA come knocking on his door and he offers Verbruggen and the UCI, I think the feds and SCA will probably go away. Albeit with monies retrieved from US postal case and the SCA case. He pays back 15 mill to Feds 10 to SCA, in return doesn't go to jail and WADA get the UCI he may have a deal. As it stands he's in serious trouble. The perjury charges will come his way this year for certain.
wonderfullife wrote: » the US postal case is a lot more complicated than a straight $15 million, it'll be closer to $25 million on a deal i would imagine, as going through the courts could put it closer to $50 million.
feck sake lads wrote: » will you stop he took a few polo mints thats all. sean kelly doped yeah right my ass.:P
Surinam wrote: » Are you a troll or are you actually being serious? Sean Kelly did test positive - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Kelly_%28cyclist%29#Doping
T-K-O wrote: » Genuine question from casual fan, Does that exclude Kelly from being a great rider
resdubwhite wrote: » No. But it certainly changes the perception somewhat. I have always wondered why Kelly is held is huge affection in this country whilst Roche is a relative outcast compared to Kellys legend.
T-K-O wrote: » I struggle to reconcile Armstrong and his demotion to a nobody when we know for sure other guys cheated yet they remain legends of the sport. It leaves a very sour taste and IMO calls into question the reputation of almost every successful rider in my lifetime
resdubwhite wrote: » Armstrong destroyed the lifes of several people in his attempt to keep the sordid story under wraps. The evidence also shows that Armstrong in his attempt to win coerced others into doping. Personally I think everyone in the sport is tainted. Outside of Lemond, I don't think anyones reputation is in tact.
