Lyaiera wrote: » I don't know what to believe. Two different After Hours mods are telling me two different things. On a different note, I think it'd be very interesting to look at Boards reaction to this from a public relations stand point. I think the reaction has improved immensely since the threads started first appearing and that's commendable. This isn't the thread for it though.
humanji wrote: » And there are thousands of comments about it on this site and others. These are where the defamation comes in.
newmug wrote: » I dont. But some people need to grow themselves some backbone. First world issues and all that.
yore wrote: » True. Similarly, google is a private company and if they decided, hypothetically, to restrict internet searches in say China, that would also be their prerogative.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » Then you see the problem. It's not about people's right to abuse anyone, it's about the fact that apparently people have the right to abuse certain sections of society but not others. Double standards have no place in the 21st century.
Pippa Middleton's Arse wrote: » There is no double standard here. The first thread appeared yesterday, it was reported 5 or 6 times in quick succession. Nearly all the reports included the word bullying. It was locked and snipped. It was deleted soon after. No doubt we would have gotten more reports otherwise. The community spoke and we agreed.
Lyaiera wrote: » Yeah, it's what's said on here and what's left be said on here. Boards and the mods could both end up being sued for not controlling what's going on the forums. It'd be a hugely interesting and very badly needed case about digital law. Are the forum owners publishers or "mere conduits?" Are volunteer mods agents of the business and can they be named separately in a legal case? Can a poster who quotes another poster in a thread be libel for the OPs defamation. Really interesting stuff.
humanji wrote: » It's a different matter when it's in a different country.
humanji wrote: » As said before, there's no blanket solution and it's madness that you think there is. As for the schoolgirls thread, it's already been pointed out that it's a different matter. Add to this that you only seem to object to it now as a way to backup your thoughts on the current matter, ask yourself, do you really care about those girls?
hatrickpatrick wrote: » I've been called a D4 myself and I'd often be one of the first people to criticize the inverted snobbery you mention, my family is probably borderline "posh" by Boards' standards :rolleyes: but the fact is that other videos of people without connections do not get taken down, and if they do, it's not nearly as fast or as absolute. Again, this girl's life should not be ruined, but I still say it's wrong that those with connections can escape the gauntlet of the internet while those without them have to grin and bear it. It doesn't seem right. I know if I did something like this I wouldn't want to feel like who I was or what my social standing was had saved me from something which someone from a different background would have had no such defense against. So if that honestly is the reason this video is banned while the cork girls and the Athlone shouting match videos are not, shame on absolutely everyone involved.
Higher wrote: » At the end of the day, a 16 year old girl, her sister and her dad have received death threats. No one deserves that.
yore wrote: » I call bull on this claim.
KamiKazeKitten wrote: » Yes. Because a major internet search engine censoring the internet is comparable to one private Irish website stopping pages of shíte being posted about a drunk kid. I've seen the threads about the Cork girls fwiw, didn't like them either.
yore wrote: » On the legal aspect, maybe so. (Despite the fact that it has been pointed out that the videos have been removed from a number of foreign based sites already)....so legally there is also some potential for damage. However morally, on the wrecking lives/futures of young people, the same standards should be applied. No, not particularly. I'm just intrigued as to why this case appears to get special attention and treatment. If I had seen the video on boards.ie , I probably wouldn't have bothered to watch it. The video itself is cr*p. I wouldn't really care about those girls any more than I'd really care about any other random video on the internet. I fell sorry for them and feel that it shouldn't have happened but it's not going to upset my year. I don't that the treatment that they got was fair but I'd doubt anyone "really cares" about them. I only "really care" about my family and close friends. I'm not callous, just honest. I'm a fair person and I don't like too see bad things being done.
humanji wrote: » And yet you didn't report the thread. As said above, mods can't see everything and have to make judgement calls with every thread. There's no real need to delete the cork girls thread because it's a dead issue. It wouldn't have been brought up if it wasn't for someone trawling through old threads to prove a point. The KPMG issue is a current one and the mods have to try and stop trouble before it happens. Prevention is better than cure.
tonyclifton wrote: » Get back in you working class terrace houses ... Of course this can't be allowed to spread all over the Internet this young lady has a bright future ahead of her... Her father is obviously a very powerfull man to put the breaks on the spread of the video ... Typical begrudgery from Internet trolls who envy wealthy people do the become keyboard warriors against a you girl ... And what did she say that what so wrong all these working class people give out about wealthy people when they contribute nothing to society just a drain on the social welfare system with their sense of entitlement
oppenheimer1 wrote: » How come it wasn't closed and deleted when it was a current issue?
yore wrote: » I never read the thread. It didn't interest me. I glanced at it there now when it was mentioned and the second to last post mentioned the girls names. So much for being a "dead issue" when their names are on the internet forevermore. If they cared as much about those girls as this other one, boards.ie should delete the thread and then apply to all mirrors/boardreaders/search engines to have it deleted from their caches. Edit: You will probably find that I never commented on that thread. Btw, I'm also banned from AH for 6 months or so. I got up a fair few mods noses when they were trying to nazi-ban certain phrases.
yore wrote: » So where exactly are you arbitrarily drawing your line on allowable censorship? It's ok for boards.ie to do it based on the fact that they are a private company yet it would unacceptable for google to do it despite also being a private company
Higher wrote: » Probably because the people involved hadn't been receiving death threats, the companies that their parents work for hadn't been bombarded with messeges that are likely to put their jobs at risk and they themselves didn't try to take action against the video.
humanji wrote: » Also, I've seen this said a lot, but have they actually received death threats?
hatrickpatrick wrote: » I'm honestly not sure if this post is sarcasm or not... Screw the internet where you can't read people's expressions
KamiKazeKitten wrote: » It's not a fair comparison. Boards doesn't have the same platform, user base and clout as google. If boards decides to not discuss something (not the same as removing internet links on a search engine, if people google they will still find that video, as well as other sites discussing it).
Boards.ie: Nicola wrote: » I am on my phone so I'll have to keep this brief (and repeat what I have said elsewhere). The video and discussions about it are a can of worms we don't want to open. Ethical and cyber bullying implications aside, and while nobody was explicitly defamed in the video, there is a part of the Defamation Act which deals with damage to reputation and this video has the potential to do that for the girl and her family.
Higher wrote: » Yes they have, the sister as well as the dad. I've a colleague who knows the family. House has also been egged a few times and people are ringing KPMG looking for the dad and abusing the daughter on the phone to whoever is on the other end. Her school has also been bombarded with emails and phonecalls saying what a whore the girl is etc. Its very nasty. Sure you can even look at the comments section on the videos and see some of the threats there yourself.
MarkMc wrote: » Out of interest and not doubting you, but is there any link to this. I've heard it as well but theres very little posted about it
