veryangryman wrote: » Why are councils still chasing people for the money when it will be handled by revenue anyway? Waste of time wouldnt you think - if one was going to pay, they would have done so by now. I smell something...
snubbleste wrote: » Household Charge unpaid? embrace your forthcoming Revenue audit...those who have not yet paid their €100 household charge also face a Revenue audit when the City and County Council hand over their details. http://www.galwaynews.ie/29569-revenues-new-year-blitz-tax-cheats
donalg1 wrote: » And what Hijpo also has to remember is that some of those advocating non payment of the HHC and evading taxes arent liable for said taxes themselves, making it very easy for them to advise others to break the law.
Hijpo wrote: » You have to register your address to there lucrative database, you still have not grasped that this is the priority and not the €100, jesus christ will you ever cop yourself on man. even people that are exempt from the charge have to do this. how do you conclude that people exempt from a law are telling people to break it when no one is exempt from registering there details.
donalg1 wrote: » Well its quite simple really "man" those that arent liable to pay it have nothing to lose by not registering, whereas those that are liable to pay it have the late payment penalties to pay. So when someone who isnt liable to pay is telling others not to pay it, I will roll my eyes and laugh at how easy it is for them to tell others to open themselves up for extra charges / late payment fees when they dont need to worry about this themselves.
Hijpo wrote: » they still have to register there details, which they have not done and are advising others not to!!!
Hijpo wrote: » lol you will roll your eyes at how easy it is for them to tell others to open themselves up for extra charges and fees, however a group that can afford the charge and property tax associated with supplying them with your details is advising people who cannot afford it, to open themselfs up to a charge which will be collected wether they can afford to pay or not. not only are they advising people to do it, but they are regurgitating all the threats that the coniving crooks in the dail are spouting. Donal, i think i speak for everyone when i say, your some dope.
donalg1 wrote: » No they are advising others not to pay it. Which is fine for them as they are not liable to pay it themselves, which really means they are in no position at all to be advising others not to do this.
Ghandee wrote: » Some people Have to register for the waiver, without the waiver, they are liable. That applied to the hhc, I don't know about the property tax though.
donalg1 wrote: » Yes and some people should not be advising others not to pay a tax that they themselves arent liable to pay. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=77189015&postcount=2912
Waivers If you are entitled to Mortgage Interest Supplement on the liability date (1 January each year) you can claim a waiver of the Household Charge. People living in certain unfinished housing estates can also claim a waiver for the years 2012 and 2013. Details of qualifying estates are published on the Household Charge website. They are also listed in the Local Government (Household Charge) Regulations 2012 (SI 1/2012). If your estate is not listed, you will not get the waiver. You must still register your property in order to claim either waiver – see ‘How to apply’ below.
Ghandee wrote: » Donal, are you taking in what I'm posting? Any private property home owner in the land must register for a waiver. Without the waiver, the homeowner is liable for the HHC.http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/owning_a_home/home_owners/household_charge.html
donalg1 wrote: » Yes Ghandee I am aware that even those exempt from payment need to register to claim their waiver. Are you taking in what I say when I say that you are in no position to advise others not to pay a tax that you yourself are not liable to pay?
You must still register your property in order to claim either waiver
Ghandee wrote: » Jesus wept. Can you give me a yes or no answer please. Without the waiver being issued to me, due to my not registering for it. As it stands, am I liable for the charge, or am i not?
donalg1 wrote: » Ghandee you are not liable for the charge, regardless of whether or not you register for a waiver, if you register you are not liable if you dont register you are not liable, its extremely simple. You are however liable to register.
donalg1 wrote: » There is a fair jump between telling someone that they have to pay for a service they receive (water to their tap) and castrating someone because they turned 30. Where do you come up with this!! Comedy Gold there, rofl.
donalg1 wrote: » Well its quite simple really "man" those that arent liable to pay it have nothing to lose by not registering, whereas those that are liable to pay it have the late payment penalties to pay.
dxhound2005 wrote: » Did nobody think to thank this post?
Ghandee wrote: » Liable to register for a waiver for what? Face palm. I give up.:cool:
6.— (1) The owner of a residential property who, on a liability date, is liable to pay a household charge to a relevant local authority, or is entitled to a waiver from payment of a household charge under subsection (4) of section 4 , in respect of the year in which that liability date falls, shall, before the expiration of such period as may be prescribed, make and provide to that local authority a statement in writing containing such information relating to the residential property concerned as may be prescribed for the purpose of enabling the Minister to prepare and maintain a database of residential properties in the State containing details of accommodation, facilities and services available in respect of such properties. (2) A statement under this section shall be in such form as may be prescribed. (3) A person who contravenes subsection (1) or (2) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on summary conviction to a class C fine.
Slick50 wrote: » Who has been paying for this service/these services for the last 35 years?
All householders were obliged to register, wether they were liable to pay or not. By not doing so, they were equally breaking the law, and just as liable to prosecution. This was all about establishing a data base for the full property charge. Did you not get that? Michael Noonan has announced that the new charge will be spread across 1.9 million households. This also shows what a crock, government propaganda figures of compliance are. Others who are not directly affected now, will be in the future. Not as of now, but you could see that for yourself.
Ghandee wrote: » Donal, you're fighting a losing battle here, the hole your digging is getting bigger. Bring your argument to the statute book.http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2011/en/act/pub/0036/sec0006.html
Ghandee wrote: » Ah here, what is the point? :rolleyes: What is a waiver Donal? Not a trick question, what is a waiver?
donalg1 wrote: » A waiver is an exemption from paying the HHC last year. Its basically a piece of paper or whatever that says you dont have to pay it this year. How do you not know this?
donalg1 wrote: » The taxpayers
donalg1 wrote: » I simply have stated that there are some here who are not in the best position to be advising others to not pay a charge they dont have to pay themselves.
Slick50 wrote: » Then your insinuation that people who object to this tax, and refuse to comlpy, are "free loaders" who want something for nothing is wrong.
Slick50 wrote: » The laws of our land are all of our business, wether we are directly affected by them at a particular time or not, and are entitled to express our points of view on them.
Ghandee wrote: » Good man. Now we're finally getting somewhere. Now, without that waiver, that would mean what exactly? C'mon now, nearly there.
donalg1 wrote: » Nearly where Ghandee?
Good man. Now we're finally getting somewhere. Now, without that waiver, that would mean what exactly?
