tayto lover wrote: » I hope it does fail. Now if it was a man protesting about a tax being dreamed up to attack his home (the only home he has) then he would have my strongest support.
Mr CJ wrote: » So I hope to god he wins and wish him the very best of luck, we need more people like this with big balls... let justice be served for once!!
dvpower wrote: » Big balls but miniscule brains.
Mr CJ wrote: » Lads who's side are you on?? Tayto I did not think you would be in support of hogan & noonan getting away with crime. I am delighted to see someone taking these fckers to court and it might wipe their arrogant smiles of their faces. If you managed to see the summons served you will see the large amount of laws they are in breach of, if he did win the household charge as we know it, it could be scrapped and people's 100euro will be returned so why would you not want this?? If your wish comes true and if he did loose it will be a blow to trying to fight the household charge and will allow our corrupt government to continue on with their dictatorship breaking laws left right, centre & ignoring the people of Ireland. So I hope to god he wins and wish him the very best of luck, we need more people like this with big balls... let justice be served for once!!
tayto lover wrote: » To a point I would agree but the test case should have been taken by someone who has only one house, his home. I think CAWTH fell down on this tbh. Had they taken a case on behalf of a one house person then everyone would have supported it on the NO side, now we have a landlord taking it which will only muddy the waters. If he does lose will he just increase his rents anyway?
dvpower wrote: » I don't think the CAHWT are involved in this case at all. Even they wouldn't back this loser. The case has had the effect of delaying other pending prosecutions, so it could be seen as a minor, albeit temporary, victory.
tayto lover wrote: » Ireland's Presidency of the E.U. will be about "Stability, Jobs and Growth", Enda Kenny 31.12.2012. Does that mean that the Lisbon Treaty is defunct? And they all sailed away in a beautiful pea-green boat to Fairyland.
Le_Dieux wrote: » Mr CJ wrote: » I am surprised RTE mentioned this http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1220/high-court-challenge-to-household-charge-begins.html[/QUOTE] I notice they are not providing a facility for comments - wonder why?:cool: Link not about high court challenge
Mr CJ wrote: » I am surprised RTE mentioned this http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1220/high-court-challenge-to-household-charge-begins.html[/QUOTE] I notice they are not providing a facility for comments - wonder why?:cool:
A LITANY of cost-overruns and failure to collect outstanding debts has left local authorities with an almost €550m hole in their budgets.The Irish Independent can reveal that our city and county councils are owed millions in unpaid water charges, rates, development levies and housing loans, with collection rates as low as32pc in some counties. And it means that households face the prospect of paying higher charges
The appalling state of their finances comes as households prepare to begin paying€500m a year in property tax to fund local services.Had councils collected the money owed to them, a full year's tax could be avoided
Some €547m is owed by businesses, households and property developers.This includes €165m in rates, with the largest amount in Dublin City, which is owed €74m.Another €20.5m is owed in unpaid housing loans, and €76.4m in unpaid water charges. Some €269m is owed in development levies, bringing the total owed across all sectors to €530.9m – the equivalent of more than a full year's property tax tak
Ghandee wrote: » Well lads, with just over three hours left of 2012, the HHC will be obsolete from midnight too. Well done to all the folk who refused to register, and be charged in the process for setting up a database on behalf of a corrupt govt, which would then be used to later screw the home owner. I think at just over a 50% compliance rate (regardless of what Hogan tries to spin) it would be fair to say that this sham was as far removed from a success for the govt as they could ever hoped to have achieved. Its now time for all to pat yourself on the back, pour yourself a nice alcoholic beverage and congratulate yourself on a job well done! Happy new year folks btw! :pac:
Am Chile wrote: » An article in yesterdays Irish Independent reveals debt levels of up to €550 is owed to councils nationwide--but also puts things in perspective a bit. .http://www.independent.ie/national-news/councils-facing-550m-budget-black-hole-as-debts-left-unpaid-3339924.html
donalg1 wrote: » Are you saying that if you didnt pay the HHC in 2012 that you are now no longer liable for it? .
donalg1 wrote: » This surely isnt what you are suggesting Ghandee, as we all know that those that didnt pay it in 2012 are now in the hole for €130 and are still liable for it, the chiming of the midnight bell on the 31st had no affect on the HHC whatsoever.
Ghandee wrote: » No. That's not what I'm saying. Almost half of the Irish homeowners who were supposed to register or pay the €100 didn't Donal, my post stated that the hhc was not a success for the govt. How could you misinterpret that to mean anything else?
Besides, liable/not liable, with a near 50% refusal to cooperate, it'll take a lot of work to enforce the unenforceable no matter if its revenue/lgma/govt collecting it. I've said previously on this site, if your details aren't on the register, you've a dam good head start on your neighbour who did register/pay. Any successful prosecutions yet? Any wages been deducted by force? Any bank accounts been raided? Any street lights turned off? No. Try as they might, they can't do it Donal, proofs in the pudding.
donalg1 wrote: » Because you said the HHC was to be obsolete from midnight, which it isnt as it is still there and the fines are still increasing for those that havent paid. I am sure it will be collected in line with the LPT when the time comes. As above the HHC will be collected eventually including the late payment penalties.
The household charge will cease from January 2013
Ghandee wrote: » Obsolete/cease. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?word=obsoletehttp://www.irishexaminer.com/budget/breaking/household-charge-to-cease-from-january-576768.html
Grass between the tracks wrote: » I paid mine there before Xmas. Don't want the revenue spooks trawling my affairs. €129 was a small price to pay for peace of mind.
Grass between the tracks wrote: » Many self employed people prefer to keep revenue on the back foot.
Hijpo wrote: » nice move, so now with your details they can stick you for water rates AND property tax, and when the council get to set the rates you will have no choice or power to fight against whatever amount of money THEY decide to take, not how much you can afford to give.
donalg1 wrote: » Water rates and LPT which he was going to have to pay anyway you mean. It was a nice move as he has saved himself some money already, would have been far better had he paid on time as he would have saved himself €29
Hijpo wrote: » All subject to whether people comply or not, he did, so its a definite for him and you. Saved himself €29 this year, signed a blank cheque to the government every year, for ever more.Any fourballs lately?
