dxhound2005 wrote: » What about this one. What do you think of Stephen Donnelly campaigning to keep small schools in Wicklow open. Do you think that would be a good use of public resources. Would you support government ministers doing the same in their constituencies?http://www.greystonesguide.ie/donnelly-calls-for-greater-protection-for-wicklows-small-rural-schools/ See, I can take the thread off in an irrelevant direction just like you do all the time.
darkhorse wrote: » pitkan wrote: » http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/town-councillor-charged-with-deceit-over-conference-expenses-3331994.html[/QUOTE] I have to say, it lifted me a bit when I heard said councillor was granted free legal aid. That was my biggest worry. He was a Fianna Fail councillor but left or was dropped 5 months ago. You couldn't have a councillor dragging Fianna Fail through the mire now, could you? :rolleyes: Back to the future for FF. It just confirms that they are all the same FF = FG =Labour.
pitkan wrote: » http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/town-councillor-charged-with-deceit-over-conference-expenses-3331994.html[/QUOTE] I have to say, it lifted me a bit when I heard said councillor was granted free legal aid. That was my biggest worry.
DoesNotCompute wrote: » Exactly. He can well afford to pay the charge, yet he refuses to do so. So he'll get very little sympathy around here. Remind you of anyone G-Man??? ;-)
dvpower wrote: » Mind you, I don't recall his election campaign being particularly focussed on the unemployed and DSW recipients.
darkhorse wrote: » Tell me then, who sticks out in your mind as having pledged to protect social welfare recipients.
Ghandee wrote: » Like the true lapdog he is, Gilmore followed in Ednas footsteps today. Legitimately challenged by Mary Lou, happy Gilmore stuttered and stammered then came up with the usual anti-SF slur. This countries future, it's in the hands of amateurs and clowns. Two parties determined to see themselves wiped from the political map imo.
Le_Dieux wrote: » Think that's good Ghandee? Anyone listen to Pat Kenny this morning? Some researcher went out to Zambia to assess how the Irish aid was being put to use - when they don't syphon off €4M. Turns out that Zambia doesn't need Irish aid, but they just kept taking what was being thrown at them blindly. The overseas minister was gobsmacked - first He had heard of it. Accountability? Irish governmentS don't know the meaning of the word. The way I read it: 'As long as I'M allright jack, screw the person in the street'.:mad:
Ghandee wrote: » Like the true lapdog he is, Gilmore followed in Ednas footsteps in the Dail. Legitimately challenged by Mary Lou, happy Gilmore stuttered and stammered then came up with the usual anti-SF slur. This countries future, it's in the hands of amateurs and clowns.
darkhorse wrote: » Does anyone here, apart from me. worry that because of this government's decision on the property tax in particular, that there is the potential of criminalising possibly hundred's of thousand's of people, that through no fault of their own may not be able to afford to pay it, people that probably would pay if they were in a position to do so financially, people that otherwise may never have been in any sort of trouble with the law. Obviously, it is not going to have any effect on the relatives of the TDs that voted it in, or they would'nt have put it through, as I am sure they must have thought long and hard about it, before they voted. I'd also like to hear the views of the people here that advocate the payment, ie. how does this aspect of the non-payment in these circumstances that I've mentioned sit with you people. The other thing I want to say, is, that we know that there is over 300,000 people out of work since the recession, well why then can we not get any more than 20,000 on a peaceful protest, cause if only a quarter of the people thats out of work was to protest outside LH, they would be heard. I just cant figure it out. Maybe people are so bewildered with the governance that they see, rises in PS/CS, bankers etc, that they just gave up. I do know that something has gotta give.
Ghandee wrote: » Unfknblievable....... Jesus............... €4m to folk who don't need it, respite carers left in the lurch....... Gombeen Govt.
darkhorse wrote: » Ain't dail privilege great. You can spend the whole working day slandering people, without any retribution.
Slick50 wrote: » Not if satisfaction ratings are replicated at an election
Qualitymark wrote: » This is a Family Home Tax, and should be so called.
dvpower wrote: » It also applies to Landlords, so its much wider than just the 'Family Home'
Qualitymark wrote: » Isn't the landlord version the Second Home Tax? (Knowing Irish landlords, it'll be subsumed into the rent anyway...)
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » Actually I think "Family Home Tax" is less accurate than Property Tax. You can have a family home that isn't liable for it.
Qualitymark wrote: » The names for this tax - "Household Charge"; "Property Tax" are classic Orwellian newspeak. Especially "Property Tax", which makes it sound like a tax on wealthy developers. This is a Family Home Tax,/Croke park agreement tax, and should be so called. I haven't paid it, but probably will; it's better to pay it and fight it legally than risk being knocked off your bike and killed and leaving a legal rat's nest for your heirs.
Ghandee wrote: » Please run through that one for me, how does that work?
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » You can rent property.
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » How so?
You can have a family home that isn't liable for it.
dvpower wrote: » Your talking about Mary Lou, right? She used Dali privilege yesterday to make an allegation of corruption against James Reilly. He challenged her repeatedly to repeat the allegation outside the dail, but she wouldn't dare.
dvpower wrote: » You have to hand it to the Shinners, blood dripping from their hands. They have some neck.
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » It doesn't matter if you own it or not, the fact remains that it can still be used as a family home.
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » The inverse also applies. Properties that aren't family homes are liable for the tax too.
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » You are not liable. The property owner is.
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » Actually I think "Family Home Tax" is less accurate than Property Tax. You can't own a family home that isn't liable for it.
