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Eishtec to create 250 jobs!!!!

otto_26

Well watching the 6 o'clock news with the old fella last night and had to sit through 15 minutes listening to the RTE tell me how great Eistec are for creating these high quality jobs!!

As pay goes in Ireland please see below..

The dole
Telesales/telemarketers
Cleaners
etc....

My question is why are the RTE news talking for 15 minutes about a company that will provide 250 telesales and telemarketing jobs at minimum wage?

After work expenses i.e travel, food, clothes the 250 people will have about 50 euro more than people on the dole....Don't get me wrong it's better to be working, but why have this on the news for 15 minutes?

After a weeks work these 250 people won't even have enough money to do the simple things in life...

Eishtec co-founder Heather Reynolds said: "We believe this expansion is testament to the skills and positive attitude of the people we've recruited..

What skills? these are unskilled minimum wage jobs...

Minister for Jobs Richard Bruton said Eishtec is a great role model for what the Government is trying to achieve in the Irish economy.

Really Richard people in jobs working 38 hour weeks and will get 50 euro a week more than people sitting on the dole that's what the government are trying to achieve for people within the Irish economy..

I think it's great people will have jobs but really didn't see why this needed to be on the news for 15 minutes trying to give people this idea that top quality jobs were going to Wexford.

Finally is the RTE news a part of the Government I mean does the government tell the RTE news what it wants aired? Because nobody at RTE ever seems to go "hang on here a second this story is a load of rubbish"

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token101

K3lso wrote: »

If the government deregulated, 250 jobs would be nothing.

Deregulated what? Which industry should they deregulate?

K3lso

If the government deregulated, 250 jobs would be nothing.

token101

****ing hell it's 250 jobs and people are still moaning! What were RTE supposed to do? Have Eileen Dunne spit on the company logo as she announced it? It's positive news that 250 people won't be on the dole anymore!! As for people saying it's not high skilled enough? Well the fact is, a large number of people on the dole are either low skilled, graduates, or people with trades. To be fair and rational about it, people with trades have two options (outside of emigration) really, either go back to college and change skill, or take a low skilled job like a call centre. Same with a lot of graduates. Most people with the skills needed for a 'high knowledge economy' are either working or have left already because there are better opportunities abroad. There's plenty of other job investments made daily on a much smaller scale, RTE just don't announce them because 250 is just a big number as opposed to ten. There was two announcements last week about life sciences and IT. What are the bets that most of the jobs here will be international hires because Ireland doesn't have the workforce to fill them?

Call centres are the best job available to people with a lack of formal qualifications because it's more money than the dole and almost all will offer you a route to education, either to progress there or get out of there. Also worth noting that as much as people (graduates mostly) love to look down on call centres, there's a lot of benefits working there. If you're working for an outsourced firm, than you have the chance to move up pretty quick in that company because the turnover rate will be so high the fact that you've lasted more than six months will make you look an incredible employee!! If you're working directly for someone like Amazon, they favour promoting internally to any position over outside hires. People that work there will tell you there's jobs in those companies advertised externally that are never going to be filled by an external hire. And finally, lot of graduate schemes are well branded call centre jobs with a chance for promotion if you do well, just like any other call centre job. Taking a telesales job is probably a step down from what most graduates were deceived into believing when they were in college, but it's better than being a professional waster or moaner and still offers opportunity. An opportunity to preserve your sanity if nothing else.

reprazant

mariaalice wrote: »

A lot of this has to do with the way "news" is reported on RTE, look at the news on the BBC for example, Items like job announcements, reports from charities( which are in reality a cheap way of then getting there name in the media ) rarely if ever appearer on the BBC news, however the RTE new is full of stuff like that Ireland is a very parochial place.

Maybe it is because BBC reports to a population of over 60m. Ireland has a population of 4.5m. What seems like small things in the UK are big things here.

WoollyRedHat

Boombastic wrote: »

The simple things in life like walking in the park, spending time with loved ones?

or a playstation and sky+??

Unskilled workers can not demand the wages of a skilled worker

Playstation and Sky + are specific, material goods. Combination of the former and latter can be possible, i.e spending time with loved ones while playing on the playstation. However they are not co-independent.

In essence, the first part of your sentence comes to form a basis of what the simple things constitute, they are considered to be outside the basis of capitalism and its principles. Outside of money.

expectationlost

it is monkey work

[Deleted User]

A lot of this has to do with the way "news" is reported on RTE, look at the news on the BBC for example, Items like job announcements, reports from charities( which are in reality a cheap way of then getting there name in the media ) rarely if ever appearer on the BBC news, however the RTE new is full of stuff like that Ireland is a very parochial place.

sfwcork

I worked in the sector years ago.even though I was on 25k which in comparison to other companies good I agree that these jobs won't exactly bring in the bling bling.i would imagine starting salary would be 17.5-20k.Regardless I admire anybody to take on the role instead of the dole,especially families.I personally know what the contract is and how both sides will make money.1000% you will get over qualified people.i wouldn't class the jobs as highly skilled but you will need to be savvy

Boombastic

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

They are the neccesities of life though, not the simple things

The simple things in life like walking in the park, spending time with loved ones?

or a playstation and sky+??

Unskilled workers can not demand the wages of a skilled worker

Daidy2011

To the best of my knowledge, Eishtec was founded as a result of TalkTalk closing their centre in the south east with the loss of hundreds of jobs. The founders of this company should be applauded for their entrepreneurship and saving a percentage of those jobs at that time.

Obviously their determination and hard work has been rewarded in that they are now in a position to create 250 new positions in their company.

I currently work in this industry (not for Eishtec) and I can assure you that people who fill these roles will be far from "unskilled labour" as suggested by a previous poster. Customer support roles require people who have verbal, listening, communication and empathetic skills. For technical support roles add problem solving, operating systems, networking, firewalls etc., maybe no rocket science but certainly not unskilled.

I congratulate this company on creating 250 job opportunities for a skilled workforce in an area of the country that has been blighted over the years with job losses.

dttq

otto_26 wrote: »

Well watching the 6 o'clock news with the old fella last night and had to sit through 15 minutes listening to the RTE tell me how great Eistec are for creating these high quality jobs!!

As pay goes in Ireland please see below..
The dole

Telesales/telemarketers

Cleaners

etc....

My question is why are the RTE news talking for 15 minutes about a company that will provide 250 telesales and telemarketing jobs at minimum wage?

After work expenses i.e travel, food, clothes the 250 people will have about 50 euro more than people on the dole....Don't get me wrong it's better to be working, but why have this on the news for 15 minutes?

After a weeks work these 250 people won't even have enough money to do the simple things in life...

Eishtec co-founder Heather Reynolds said: "We believe this expansion is testament to the skills and positive attitude of the people we've recruited..

What skills? these are unskilled minimum wage jobs...

Minister for Jobs Richard Bruton said Eishtec is a great role model for what the Government is trying to achieve in the Irish economy.

Really Richard people in jobs working 38 hour weeks and will get 50 euro a week more than people sitting on the dole that's what the government are trying to achieve for people within the Irish economy..

I think it's great people will have jobs but really didn't see why this needed to be on the news for 15 minutes trying to give people this idea that top quality jobs were going to Wexford.

Finally is the RTE news a part of the Government I mean does the government tell the RTE news what it wants aired? Because nobody at RTE ever seems to go "hang on here a second this story is a load of rubbish"

Otto, please stop whinging. Economic recovery and getting the unemployment rate down doesn't happen overnight, it's a gradual, step-by-step process and any job creation is to be welcomed. Also it's not simply a matter of the creation of 250 jobs, it's killing two bird with the one stone, not only are you taking 250 people off the dole and cutting down on welfare, taxpayer paid for dole incomes, you are also creating a system whereby those 250 won't just be ceasing to cost the state - they will be paying into it.

Also people earning a salary every week are going to be pumping a lot more money into the economy , than someone struggling on the dole at €150 a week.

Oh and it's not rocket science, why wouldn't a national broadcaster announce new job creation, it's the best way to advertise jobs creation as it gets through to the largest amount of people in a shorter amount of time than any other media or advertising outlet.

And lastly there's the knock on effect of even more jobs creation in commerce - and hence even more people taken off the dole - thanks to these new workers spending and pumping money back into the economy.

WoollyRedHat

Boombastic wrote: »

Define the simple things in life?? Food, Shelter, access to medical care........I'm sure they will have this

They are the neccesities of life though, not the simple things. Even in hardship, the simple things can still be cherished.

Boombastic

otto_26 wrote: »

No just this part:

After a weeks work these 250 people won't even have enough money to do the simple things in life...

Define the simple things in life?? Food, Shelter, access to medical care........I'm sure they will have this

saiint

so your raging because you missed 15minutes of news that could of been important :L your not angry about the jobs created
your angry because they talked about it for 15 minutes :L
OP go live off the dole cause obviously you wont be getting a job unless a position opens up in the goverment

Tombi!

Is it actually minimum wage jobs or "we only pay you on commission"?
First one: I'm actually pretty happy about that.
Second one: Sure I can just go on FÁS and get one of those.

Adyx

longhalloween wrote: »

Do people on the dole not have these expenses??

Are they running around naked and starving?

I know I am.

otto_26

mike65 wrote: »

To be fair to the OP its RTEs trumpeting of low paid jobs like it was Intel announcing a FAB
that is his beef.

Exactly 100% correct.

RodgersLFC

The only thing I took issue with on the report was the smug look on Brendan Howlin's face, as if he was saying "look how fantastic i am, bringing all these jobs to the south east", whereas in reality he had feck all to do with it.

I dont see the problem in the news spending time on a major jobs announcement though, no matter who is providing the jobs its a boost for the south east region. Its better than hearing bad news story after bad news story. Its good for people to hear something positive for a change.

otto_26

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

All your post is telling me is, the dole is too high.

After a weeks work these 250 people won't even have enough money to do the simple things in life...

otto_26

RodgersLFC wrote: »

Jesus Christ, what is wrong with you? 250 new jobs created in an area of the country that hasnt had a jobs announcement for ages, and still you're bitching about it?

No just this part:

After a weeks work these 250 people won't even have enough money to do the simple things in life...

longhalloween

otto_26 wrote: »

After work expenses i.e travel, food, clothes

Do people on the dole not have these expenses??

Are they running around naked and starving?

Hippies!

Great thread OP, and you're dead right. It certainly isn't worthy of a 15 min slot on the news, people have lost the plot again...

Wanderer2010

OP, are you privvy to the exact wages staff at Eistech recieve?

Sully

Could be as its an Irish startup company in Waterford which is suffering at the moment. The company is now expanded, to eh, Wexford. Amusing, but true.

Micky Dolenz

All your post is telling me is, the dole is too high.

mike65

To be fair to the OP its RTEs trumpeting of low paid jobs like it was Intel announcing a FAB
that is his beef.

Drakares

OP are you serious?

RodgersLFC

Jesus Christ, what is wrong with you? 250 new jobs created in an area of the country that hasnt had a jobs announcement for ages, and still you're bitching about it?

Robbo

Remember, we all have to act surprised when after the IDA grants run out, the whole operation is shifted overseas.

mikom

otto_26 wrote: »

What skills? these are unskilled minimum wage jobs...

Knowledge economy 'innit.