Mental Mickey wrote: » Hmmmm........I beg to differ.
Deleted User wrote: » Independent being as classy as ever. They said on RTE that the body is still at the scene which is more than enough detail. Sounds like a horrible incident.
Duggy747 wrote: » A large wheel like a bus crushing a skull results in pretty much an instantaneous death. He would've been dead even before the bus stopped.
RikkFlair wrote: » Yeah its on his Live 2002 DVD. Not being from Dublin I often wondered where exactly he was on about, now sadly I know for sure Horrific thing for people to witness.
repsol wrote: » Nice description! You should send a CV into the Independent.
I'm tyred of this despicable behaviour in the city centre.
I'm tyred
Gummy Panda wrote: » Yeah he would have been dead before the shock of the fall wore off
seamus wrote: » Maybe it's not for this thread, but there's an academic discussion about whether being more explicit in describing road traffic incidents would actually make people think more about their actions on the road. "Man struck by bus" conjures images of someone knocked out the way of the bus, landing on the ground. Even if he dies, the mind conjures up images of a body which has a couple of cuts and bruises but is otherwise fairly flawless. The reality is usually nothing like that, and the level of shock and sadness in this thread I think reflects that. If the reporting had simply said that a man had been struck by a bus on Dawson st, would posters on this thread have been as sensitive and apalled? I don't think so. Most fatal road traffic incidents are pretty gruesome (speak to any Garda or EMT), but watered-down reporting of the incidents makes us desensitised to it. Decapitations are far more common than anyone would think. Perhaps if the media were encouraged to describe what actually happened, we'd be more likely to scrub our speed by 5km/h, or take more care before walking out on the road?
seanhalpin wrote: » Most shocking example is similar to this case. Remember in china when that child was run over by a not one but two vans. Some dope with a camer just filmed it happening and is shows people just stepping over the body on the street.
repsol wrote: » I think they should report it warts and all.If people find it too much,turn the page or don't buy that paper.I have attended many gruesome scenes in my career so I am very aware of the mechanics of crush fatalities.People now feel entitled to film EVERYTHING on their phones which is very distracting for those of us who work in this field and very distressing for victims.You can be dealing with a distressed victim of a crime or accident(even minors on occasion) and have some asshole filming it to show to all the other assholes he knows.
Mental Mickey wrote: » Eh how exactly?
seanhalpin wrote: » I see what you did there. Yer man got "tyred" too. Good one.:pac:
seanhalpin wrote: » Someone mentioned bystander effect - not only in assulaust but applied in gerneral when someone is in severe distress and no-one helps. Most shocking example is similar to this case. Remember in china when that child was run over by a not one but two vans. Some dope with a camer just filmed it happening and is shows people just stepping over the body on the street. An absolute disgrace that it played out like this. However, I would tend to blame this on socialism having destroyed any kind of empathy in most poeple.
Higher wrote: » A friend said he was there and was disgusted. Not only by the incident itself but by all the people gawking and taking photos. Some people had the lack of respect to try get as close as possible to the body to get better pictures.
Ophelia Curved Zap wrote: » I was in an office directly above the incident when it happened. I heard a shout, looked down and he had already died. It was dark and took a few minutes of watching peoples reactions as they went over to help him and then realised that he was far beyond help. After a minute or two a worker put a hi vis over his shoulders and what was left of his head. Then someone else put flattened cardboard boxes over his body and tried to hold them there as the wins tried to blow them away. It was the most horrifying thing I have every seen.
Reoil wrote: » I'm a bit surprised that they're still trying to identify the guy. It makes me think it was either a tourist or a foreigner - in the idea that it's somebody who wouldn't necessarily have somebody close to them to contact the police when they didn't arrive home yesterday evening.
Wibbs wrote: » Not an excuse IMH C. You get stuck in if you can. Stand around like a headless chicken and lose my respect(FWIW). Too many bloody bystanders in life I've found and yes too often I've seen it up close.
realies wrote: » Unfortunately People want to see gore and death, who it was and whose fault it was, and the media play into that.
Higher wrote: » A friend said he was there and was disgusted. Not only by the incident itself but by all the people gawking and taking photos. Some people had the lack of respect to try get as close as possible to the body to get better pictures.If I was there the first thing I would have done if I saw people taking photos would be to take the phone out of their hand and smash it. I honestly think I would lose the rag. Horrible way to go. Horrible for the bus driver. Horrible for the thousands of students who would have been on that street waiting for their bus. Horrible for all the tourists. Horrible for the normal commuters. Horrible for the family of the man. Horrible reporting from the Independent. Everything about this story is horrible. Its so strange to think tens of thousands of people will be walking on that street tomorrow like nothing happened. I am genuinely disturbed by all the whole situation.
conorhal wrote: » I'd have put my boot heel throught the front screen of the first person's expensive iPhone that I saw fim it of something like that happened in front of me (thank God I didn't).
