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Man pushed under Dublin Bus and decapitated

dd972

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gardai-hunt-for-pair-after-man-dies-under-dublin-bus-3318302.html

This is mad sh*t, glad I didn't witness it, think the Indo should have spared the gory details though, what about the family / friends of the victim

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paddy147

The man was PUSHED from the path into the road.

The bus didnt mount the path..the man was pushed.

Buses and have been going around the road for years and no one has been killed from walking on the pathway.........even in heavy padestrian traffic.

Buses,trucks and general Traffic doesnt come into it here,with regards to what happened.

2 sick fcukers pushed the man put infront of the bus.

I hope they gets whats comming to them too.

Son_of_Belial

I hear ya Don. Also, and forgive me for saying so, I mean it in the very best way, I know this man was a human being and I don't want people to think I'm comparing him to a dog or something but... Well... It was quick you know? He didn't suffer. If someone was to tell me and somehow know that I wouldn't die peacefully in my sleep and that it'd be in some sort of accident, I hope it's that quick and painless...

eviltwin

There was a similar incident around the corner from my former work place a few years ago. We couldn't see what happened but heard the commotion. We thought it was an armed robbery and went around for a nose. We didn't see anything of the scene but there were police there who were very visably upset by what they had seen so I can only imagine for a member of the public the kind of trauma they must be dealing with tonight not to mention the poor bus driver.

My heart goes out to the family of the young lad, such terrible news and they won't be able to see him to say goodbye.

I can't even begin to understand what makes a person even think about taking a photo of such a scene, where is the respect and humanity.

JupiterKid

Shocking and utterly horrible. Can I suggest that the poster two posts up from me put a big spoiler on his description of the scene as it is deeply graphic and frankly disturbing.

RIP to the man who was killed. The bus driver abd witnesses must be very traumatised. That location is a very dangerous spot.

donvito99

The Luas can't go down Dawson St soon enough. As it is, the Dawson/Nassau Junction is dangerous, congested by both pedestrians and cars and of course, buses.

I'm just glad there are not many HGVs on the quays or streets anymore, there were some horrific injuries and deaths at the hands of those vehicles.

This whole incident is made even worse by the malice of it all.

Son_of_Belial

Tmeos wrote: »

I was there tonight, didn't see it happen but must have been minutes before because the guards weren't on the scene. I saw the bus stopped and thought it must be broken down so I walked around the back of it and nearly tripped over the poor guy. Ill never forget what I saw when I looked down. The picture of him is burned into my brain, I can't sleep because it keeps flashing infront of me. Horrible just so horrible

I can't have been far from ya dude... You'll be grand... The way I see it - if it's now the worst thing I'll ever see in my life from this point on I'll take it just fine with no complaints.

Tmeos

I was there tonight, didn't see it happen but must have been minutes before because the guards weren't on the scene. I saw the bus stopped and thought it must be broken down so I walked around the back of it and nearly tripped over the poor guy. Ill never forget what I saw when I looked down. The picture of him is burned into my brain, I can't sleep because it keeps flashing infront of me. Horrible just so horrible

Son_of_Belial

LUPE is obviously taking the piss - bad form. I saw what happened - well not the actual accident right there but the general confusion and the screaming - one poor girl was in a right hysterical state. <snip>.

Wondering if it should have and if there's something fundamentally wrong with me as a result... That's my two cents anyway. Night...

Mod: Let's leave the gory details to the tabloids

paddy147

LUPE wrote: »

Is that aimed at me or Dublin Bus?

Yes it is.......Provide a Link to your claim or else remove your post and get lost.

Chuck Stone

There'll be a lot of people going to bed tonight completely traumatised having been eye-witness to such horror.

Aciiiiiiiiiiid

LUPE wrote: »

No buses running tomorrow out of respect for all involved.

inappropriate thread to be taking the piss, if you're genuine provide a source or link to that information

The Aussie

LUPE wrote: »

Is that aimed at me or Dublin Bus?

It's common practice to provide a link to stories as to not cause any confusion or misunderstanding.

Stories like this make you realise how cheap life is to some and how precious it is to others.

RIP.

LUPE

SimonTemplar wrote: »

Provide a link or cop onto yourself.

Is that aimed at me or Dublin Bus?

Calibos

Looks like the pun masters that usually pollute threads like this (Jaysus lighten up, I'm only having a laugh, no one asked you to read the thread etc etc) are instead busy uploading camera phone footage to social media (Jaysus, chill out, its not like I pushed him etc etc) More and more people don't even know what the word empathy means these days, never mind experience that emotion.

RIP and God Love any of the witnesses. I witnessed a dog being run over once that still haunts me. I simply can't imagine what those who witness events like these involving another human being are feeling right now.

humberklog

pithater1 wrote: »

I highly doubt it. Used to cycle down Dame Street daily and the buses wizz right past you

Simple physics would dictate on the speed at that particular right angled left hand turn. The bus would be doing well under 30kph at that point. It could only be.

stoneill

The poor man to lose his life that way - the unfortunate driver, the passengers and witnesses. Whenever I read a story about a sudden tragic death, road accident victims etc. I always think that this person, got up that morning heedless that this was their last day, kissed the wife goodbye, probably said see you later or call you later, said love you for the last time and went out the door.
The loss of a life is tragic on so many levels, and there is a certain truth to living life as if it is your last day.

SimonTemplar

This is so tragic. I really hope there were no child witnesses to this, especially at this time of year. That would have long term consequences at such an impressionable age.

Sadly there is going to be an onslaught of sensationalism from certain sectors of the printed media tomorrow with inappropriate pictures on the front page. Not that it will make any difference, but can I appeal to people to avoid these rags who are written by moral vacuums with no concern for the trauma suffered by everyone involved.

Finally, after such an awful incident, anyone who is seriously complaining about the one euro increase in wine needs to look at things in perspective

RIP and my sincere sympathies to anyone affected by this.

cournioni

Horrible RIP. my thoughts are with his family.

Poor bus driver and witnesses too, must have been horrific.

I remember one time on Westmoreland St in Dublin heading towards O'Connell bridge a scummer tried to sell me a Big Issue, I refused and kept walking. The scummer who was from Dublin said I hope you get hit by a car and proceeded to follow me towards the traffic lights, my brother pulled me over to the side of the road away from him. The twat was still staring at me from O'Connell Bridge. Couldn't help but think of this after hearing about the tragic incident today. Really hope the perpetrators are caught and brought to justice.

Pottler

LivelineDipso wrote: »

You are a ______.

Nah, I'm not really, I phrased that Post really badly though - every time there's a human incident that's just sad and tragic for the people involved, someone will come on with an agenda that's anti___(insert whatever) and twist the thread to that angle. I'm genuinely sorry for the person killed and their family, - it's not about Rupert Murdoch, his paper or a world agenda. It's about some poor fcuker that lost their life under a bus. And their family. I don't care what or who the person was, who took pictures or who didn't - I just feel for the family and am sorry they died.

cantdecide

Trust me you never know how you'll react until it happens.

I was once traumatised by witnessing someone I knew from school being run over at speed by a 4x4 but thankfully he wasn't badly hurt. Just thinking about it gives me shivers. The sounds. I can only imagine what all of those poor people that had the misfortune to be there as they tried to make their way home are going through.

[Deleted User]

Wibbs wrote: »

Not an excuse IMH C. You get stuck in if you can. Stand around like a headless chicken and lose my respect(FWIW). Too many bloody bystanders in life I've found and yes too often I've seen it up close. Just one example: A few years back a mate and myself were walking down a street in Dublin and spotted this old guy in his 60's who was clearly in trouble. Heart issue as it turned out and we went over and tried to help. The majority of people either walked by, or just stood there like slack jawed Easter island statues gawping. I've rarely been so angry TBH. And I'm hardly the strong type by any stretch, more a coward than anything but FFS. :mad: Fair play to the taxi guy for stepping up and I look on those taking pictures as something less human, certainly not part of a species I'd wish to be associated with. Twats basically and fcuking weak mindless ones at that. :mad:

I disagree when it's something sudden and unexpected. When I was a teenager there were times me or my friends would get jumped and some of us would freeze, some would run, some would fight. Rarely was there any particular pattern as to who did what, it was just whatever way the adrenaline happened to hit at that exact time. In the case of car crashes etc. it's the same. A couple of years ago I had a car coming towards me at 50-60mph and I froze right in its path. It was lucky I did, if I'd been able to keep moving there's a 50/50 change I would've gone the same direction he did. It wasn't an intelligent or purposeful move, I just got lucky.

EarlyStorms

This is such a shocking story. I just missed this by minutes. Was on a bus listening to the radio & heard about an incident on Dawson St causing huge delays and having just passed through it I was thankful I missed what I thought/hoped would be a minor accident. Got home and heard the full extent of what happened and I couldn't believe it. My thoughts are with the poor bloke who lost his life and his family. Really feel for the bus driver and anyone who had witness this happen too. I cant believe people were trying to get closer to the body to take pictures, I can imagine those pics are flying all over the place now. Thats almost as bad as the people who put him under the bus who I hope are caught sharpish.

Rocket19

God, the poor guy. Like a lot of other posters, I would often be in or around that junction and this time of day, and am very glad I wasn't this evening. Was around Stephens Green, and funnily enough, heard nothing of this incident.

Also, have to say that I can hardly describe my feelings on the people taking photos at the scene. Utterly disgusting, I mean, what is wrong with people??? Such a lack of empathy and respect. The thoughts of this genuinely makes me feel ill.

RIP to the poor guy,and thoughts with the family, witnesses and driver.

somairle

As has been previously said that corner is horrible, at rush hour pedestrians are packed & the nature of the corner means buses almost cut the corner while people wait for the green man, I have had busses pass within less than a foot of me, on more than one occasion. All it would take is someone coming behind you, not looking and bumping into you and your out in the road. I am shocked its 30kph it certainly seems busses often go faster around there.

But that doesn't take away that this was murder/ manslaughter, condolences to the family and I hope everyone who had to witness this recovers ok.

[Deleted User]

Wibbs wrote: »

Not an excuse IMH C. You get stuck in if you can. Stand around like a headless chicken and lose my respect(FWIW). Too many bloody bystanders in life I've found and yes too often I've seen it up close. Just one example: A few years back a mate and myself were walking down a street in Dublin and spotted this old guy in his 60's who was clearly in trouble. Heart issue as it turned out and we went over and tried to help. The majority of people either walked by, or just stood there like slack jawed Easter island statues gawping. I've rarely been so angry TBH. And I'm hardly the strong type by any stretch, more a coward than anything but FFS. :mad: Fair play to the taxi guy for stepping up and I look on those taking pictures as something less human, certainly not part of a species I'd wish to be associated with. Twats basically and fcuking weak mindless ones at that. :mad:

Terrible event, regardless of the back story and one helluva shít time for the guys family and friends. RIP

That's a bit harsh. A lot of people just genuinely freeze. I generally do. Not taking pictures or gawping, but I just freeze and can't react. Nothing to do with being cowardly or making any kind of conscious decision. I WANT to react, but I can't - it's like someone has pressed a pause button - and unless you suffer from this, you can't really judge people. Taking photos is a whole other issue.

Andy-Pandy

I witnessed something similar in Vietnam years ago, it's an image you can never get out of your mind. Thought's to everyone involved, alot of Christmases ruined. RIP

Wibbs

Conchir wrote: »

I think it might have something to do with the Bystander Effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

Basically, it's the theory that a passerby is unlikely to offer help in an emergency if there are other passersby present. So, most people there would have just froze, until this one person thought to cover up the body.

This theory I think is more to do with intervening in an assault or something, but I think the same principle might apply here - no one reacted because there were others around.

Not an excuse IMH C. You get stuck in if you can. Stand around like a headless chicken and lose my respect(FWIW). Too many bloody bystanders in life I've found and yes too often I've seen it up close. Just one example: A few years back a mate and myself were walking down a street in Dublin and spotted this old guy in his 60's who was clearly in trouble. Heart issue as it turned out and we went over and tried to help. The majority of people either walked by, or just stood there like slack jawed Easter island statues gawping. I've rarely been so angry TBH. And I'm hardly the strong type by any stretch, more a coward than anything but FFS. :mad: Fair play to the taxi guy for stepping up and I look on those taking pictures as something less human, certainly not part of a species I'd wish to be associated with. Twats basically and fcuking weak mindless ones at that. :mad:

Terrible event, regardless of the back story and one helluva shít time for the guys family and friends. RIP

macroman

Condolences to the family of the deceased very tragic and unnecessary circumstances - feel for the witnesses, and those that have to deal with the unenviable tasks involved. The Indo article was a little close to the bone.

As a coach driver I can say that my worst fear is someone ending up under my bus - these things weigh upwards of 26ton fully laden, even at 30km/h if it was to clip you, you wouldn't fair out well. Any faster and emergency stops are impossible - something other road users aren't aware of! Just last week at this very junction someone nearly ended up under my bus by walking on the roadside as I was taking the corner - earphones on, phone in hand & away in their own world - the guy didn't realise how close he was to being under my bus.

The junction in question is lethal, mainly due to pedestrians standing at the kerb not realising that buses may scrub the kerb, or cyclists undertaking on left hand junctions. There is no awareness to how pedestrians and cyclists should behave around traffic and I fear more incidents may happen like this, hopefully not in the same circumstances...

OctavarIan

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

No, if you read the article one of his ghoulish reporters took photographs (Instead of possibly saving the guy) and had them published.

Story did not go down to well.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20599224

Funnily enough none of the other people on the platform who were closer than that freelancer got in such hot water. Neither did any of the people who took photos/videos of the corpse. The real 'ghoul' is the paper itself for not only publishing the photo but publishing it in such a crass way.

Higher

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Where is My Name is URL and his moral outrage when you actually need him?

Are you bored? Stop trying to look for a reaction and have some respect.