dvpower wrote: » Pay your damn taxes, that's what
dxhound2005 wrote: » I am not a spokesperson for anyone. I don't go writing stuff like "the people" will do X or "the women of Ireland" will do Y.
loggedoff wrote: » But your here arguing that everyone should pay the household charge....
dxhound2005 wrote: » Hardly supported by the fact the only 29% of the people here who voted have paid the HHC.
Le_Dieux wrote: » What do you not understand? I HAVE PAID my taxes!!!
tayto lover wrote: » It doesn't take 29% to keep this thread going and to try and convince everyone of the morality of paying unjust taxes.
dxhound2005 wrote: » What I said all along was that since it became the law of the land I think it is self defeating and will be ultimately more expensive for individuals who defy it. That is my opinion which I am stating only on behalf of myself Disagreeing with how the government is running the country does not give a person the right to pick and choose what laws they will abide by, that way lies anarchy. Also my individual opinion. Writing stuff like "the people" will do this or "the people" won't do that is just hot air.
bgrizzly wrote: » i guess i cant argue with you then(cause im also with Izzy) (although i think i'd be more extreme on spending cuts that either of you)
loggedoff wrote: » I have to say, having seen the incompetence, greed and cronyism of this and the last governments, that I will most lightly vote Sinn Fein in the local elections and the general election after that.
tayto lover wrote: » Well by God did we get enough hot air during the General Election -- "Not another cent" "I will make sure Roscommon Hospital remains at full service as the people deserve it" "It's Labour's way or Frankfurt's way" Ha ha Do you want more of these? I have thousands. There was enough hot air coming out of that crowd to fly a balloon around the world 10 times without landing. Eat your heart out Richard Branston. Enda and his cronies could fuel a rocket.
dxhound2005 wrote: » All good knockabout stuff but please don't give us thousands. None of what they said or what you believed gives you the right to break the law.
tayto lover wrote: » They should protest outside the homes of the Ministers. Make their homes the subject of the protest in the same way as they made our homes the targets of their attacks. I know for certain that this effected the thinking of Dermot Aherne when people protested outside his home. He didn't last long in his ministry afterwards and jumped ship. Protesting outside the Dail they can ignore.
MadYaker wrote: » I'm always amazed that people swallowed all the sh!t that FG and Labour were feeding them before the election. Anyone who has a clue knew that they wouldn't be able to keep their promises. Did it never occur to you that maybe they just said those things to get elected?? No?? I'm genuinely surprised that so many people are so outraged EVERY TIME they break a ridiculous and unrealistic promise they made before the election.
dvpower wrote: » New campaign slogan "Don't Register; Just Pay"
dvpower wrote: » Good for you. Another former tax cheat has paid up. Well done you.
mikom wrote: » Word of the day: Subservient
lugha wrote: » I'm sure Sean Quinn would thank you too, if he wasn't in the clink. :pac:
tayto lover wrote: » Do you think it would be a good idea to decide the election on who can tell the biggest lie? Like why waste so much money in these recessionary times with trips all around the country spouting s***e if it doesn't really matter?
MadYaker wrote: » No I don't think we should decide elections on who can tell the biggest lie but when telling the truth about what you will be forced to do in government would ensure that you come last in the election what do you expect politicians to do? That sad reality was that it didn't matter who we voted for in the last election. If FG and Labour told us that they were going to have no choice but to attack the middle/working classes with cuts and bring in swathes of new taxes to try and get our public finances in order for the benefit of future generations would you have voted for them? I doubt you would and neither would most of the electorate because the reality is that most people aren't prepared to face up to the situation our country is in, they want to be bankrolled by their European counterparts for free and they would rather bury their heads sand and blame the government instead of facing the facts. And the media of course are only too happy to fan the flames of hatred, anything that will sell them a few more newspapers.
Am Chile wrote: » Put forward another suggestion people could do-your local labour councillers-your local labour senator or labour td-target labour in particular-my suggeestion is for people to gather a list of phone numbers for local labour reps in your areas-publish the list on your facebook or twitter pages -ask all your friends to let labour reps know how you feel about this property tax and cuts to child benifet-target labour put these working class traiters under a bit of pressure.
MadYaker wrote: » No I don't think we should decide elections on who can tell the biggest lie but when telling the truth about what you will be forced to do in government would ensure that you come last in the election what do you expect politicians to do? That sad reality was that it didn't matter who we voted for in the last election. If FG and Labour told us that they were going to have no choice but to attack the middle/working classes with cuts and bring in swathes of new taxes to try and get our public finances in order for the benefit of future generations would you have voted for them? I doubt you would and neither would most of the electorate because the reality is that most people aren't prepared to face up to the situation our country is in, they want to be bankrolled by their European counterparts for free and they would rather bury their heads in the sand and blame the government, who had no hand in creating this mess, instead of facing the facts. And the media of course are only too happy to fan the flames of hatred, anything that will sell them a few more newspapers.
Ghandee wrote: » They had no choice? Here's one, just one little suggestion they could have done, and I can't work out why. Anyone wishing to claim dole in Ireland is means tested, many, genuinely poor desperate folk get turned away. Child benefit is payable to anyone, ffs Michael O'Leary was giving out that he even got it. What the coalition do? Cut it by €10 a month for all. Michael O'Leary doubtfully will miss that tenner, a single mother, two or three kids worse lost her job due to the business she worked for shouting down as the bank wouldn't finance it (probably) will. Why not means test child benefit? Jaysus, some of the needy cases might even have got a few bob more when the need nots were stripped of it? No choices me hole.
Ghandee wrote: » They had no choice? Here's one, just one little suggestion they could have done, and I can't work out why they didn't: Anyone wishing to claim dole in Ireland is means tested, many, genuinely poor desperate folk get turned away. Child benefit is payable to anyone, ffs Michael O'Leary was giving out that he even got it. What the coalition do? Cut it by €10 a month for all. Michael O'Leary doubtfully will miss that tenner, a single mother, two or three kids whose lost her job due to the business she worked for shouting down as the bank wouldn't finance it (probably) will. Why not means test child benefit? Jaysus, some of the needy cases might even have got a few bob more when the need nots were stripped of it? No choices me hole.
