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Bord Pleanala blocks demolition of Ireland’s first skyscraper Liberty Hall

davet82

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/bord-pleanala-blocks-demolition-of-irelands-first-skyscraper-liberty-hall-3295772.html

THE country’s first skyscraper, Liberty Hall, will remain a feature on the Dublin skyline after An Bord Pleanala refused permission to demolish the building.

Trade union SIPTU had been granted planning permission by Dublin City Council last year to demolish the 17-storey, 60 metre building and replace it with a 22-storey building of more than 93 metres.

please please reconsider knocking down this monstosity, i'm not saying replace it with a new one just knock down that horrible looking thing!

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pabloh999

They refused us a shiny new large building, which would have created plenty of work for a few years?

Absolute gob****es

Celly Smunt

"skyscraper" :pac:

Rigol

Oh ffs ...whats their excuse this time.

dr.bollocko

Irish architects of the last 50 years have a hell of a lot to answer for.

Shenshen

Skyscraper?!

Ok, you do get some very low-hanging clouds sometimes, but seriously?
And that thing is hideous.

squod

Burn it out first.

Rigol

"national historic and social significance"

kick these cnts out.

jimmycrackcorm

Can't do abortion and can't build tall buildings. The country needs a bit of moving forward in lots of ways.

jimmycrackcorm

squod wrote: »

Burn it out first.

Is that with Siptu inside or outside?

FatherLen

i like it.

ah just kidding, it's shit.

Leftist

these clowns are having a steffi graff. Always blocking things, probably means they don't have to do any work.

super_furry

It's an awful grey concrete block with an air of 70s depression.

pabloh999

Rigol wrote: »

Oh ffs ...whats their excuse this time.

Detract from Custom House or some such ****e

DCC had already approved this, then an bord pleanala came in and stopped it.
Why are DCC even involved in the process when they have no power at all?
So it goes through normal planning process with DCC, gets approved.
Grand.
But then it goes through another process with an bord pleanala, what a total waste of time/money.

super_furry

Huh? Only argument is that it makes the Custom House look better in the same way that standing an average girl next to an ugly mess makes her look better.

westendgirlie

I have mates in London who live in council flats higher up than that building!

The term is Hi-Rise not skyscraper.

davet82

westendgirlie wrote: »

I have mates in London who live in council flats higher up than that building!

The term is Hi-Rise not skyscraper.

shíte pile is a better term

SEPT 23 1989

The beards wont be happy

which is good

jasonmcco

the madness is bord planaaalllla. Who are they? They performed great during the tiger didnt they?

gobnaitolunacy

I really can't imagine anything uglier than that sh*theap of a building that looks like a council flat.

Why can't we design nice things?

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dr.bollocko wrote: »

Irish architects of the last 50 years have a hell of a lot to answer for.

It seems that it is An Bord Pleanala and the councils that make the end decisions on most of this thing as opposed to architects that are putting forward proposals

davet82

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Why can't we design nice things?

idk, maybe our architects drink at work?

later12

Liberty Hall was slightly more beautiful when it was first built; it had Mosaic cladding and clear glass so it looked far more transparent.

Having said that, it was built by an engineer and not an architect, and some people are of the opinion that it shows, too. The building has no artistic merit to speak of; it is exceptionally dull.

ChippingSodbury

How were SIPTU going to pay for this? From increased subscriptions collected from their members who, in their own words, are living on the breadline? Or do they have a war-chest full of money collected from their members (living on the breadline) already?
Sure, it would create some jobs for a while but isn't that the mentality that got us into the mess we're in at the moment: you can't export buildings (at least not this kind...)
Why can't they move into one of the numerous empty office spaces around the city? Or did they just want to keep up with Anglo and have a nice new shiny office by the river?:pac:

gobnaitolunacy

davet82 wrote: »

idk, maybe our architects drink at work?

The designer of Liberty Hall was clearly inspired by a milk carton.

pabloh999

http://www.pleanala.ie/news/240350/240350.htm

It is considered that the site of Liberty Hall is of national
historic and social significance....

These are the same shower who would have point blank refused Liberty Hall in the first place, now its a national treasure.
Who are they?
They need to be held accountable for their massive decisions which affect everyone of us indirectly

Leaving the aesthetics aside, the country is on its knees, constuction industry is in freefall and is crying out for construction projects like this:(

Freddy Smelly

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

The designer of Liberty Hall was clearly inspired by a milk carton.

i dunno it looks more like an aluminium climbing frame... maybe the architect was a four year old

gobnaitolunacy

later12 wrote: »

Having said that, it was built by an engineer and not an architect, and some people are of the opinion that it shows, too. The building has no artistic merit to speak of; it is exceptionally dull.

And this 'thing' is better, by being designed by an architect?

http://www.constructireland.ie/articles/0216highrenaissance.php

ChippingSodbury

And another thing while I'm at it.

It was refused on the basis that it would be visually intrusive i.e. because it would be the tallest building around. How many more buildings have already been refused for being too tall? Maybe they don't get the concept of having one tall building and then another, and then a few more and then they wouldn't be intrusive. One building has to be first...

if there was more high-rise development in the city centre, there wouldn't be such an urban sprawl all around. A more compact city means less issues with providing public transport, utilities etc. etc.

davet82

is there links to the plans for the proposed building that was refused anybody?

henryporter

Clueless Philistines:

http://docomomo.ie/2010/03/liberty-hall-docomomo-observation-irish-times/

It's probably the best building in Dublin after Busarus.