YeatsCounty wrote: » My Dad got a letter earlier this week demanding payment including a fine......despite the fact that he paid before the deadline and they acknowledged receipt of the payment a few weeks ago. So even when you pay, they don't know if you've paid. Idiots.
tayto lover wrote: » Now if we all got letters and rang them saying we already paid i'd say they couldn't tell whether we did or not. There could be great fun to be had with this yet
Le_Dieux wrote: » Where are all the 'Pro' Gang gone? Miss You Guys!
MadYaker wrote: » I'm waiting for some of you to get taken to court so I can gloat!
bgrizzley wrote: » Due to the disappearance of the yes side i am hereby applying for post of resident Pro-HHCer on this thread.
Pay your feckin taxes, ya spongers, or all the libraries will close...
Paying the household charge A chara, – Like thousands of others who had already paid the household charge, my wife and I both recently received letters from our local authority telling us that “the amount now due including late payment fees and interest is €127 per property”. The letter came from the head of finance in Wicklow County Council, but I gather that a similar form of words was used by councils throughout the country. I didn’t know whether to be annoyed or amused at this letter. First of all it’s clear the council haven’t a clue whether I’ve paid or not, and there is a reference to the possibility that the letter may have been sent in error “due to the manner in which names and addresses can be entered and recorded differently in computer systems by the public”. God forbid the mistake could have been made by the council! The letter then proceeds to tell me that if I have already paid the charge I’m to contact, not Wicklow County Council, which sent out the letter, but “the Central Bureau at LoCall 1890357357”. I’m expected, it seems, to ring up the central section that I paid the money to in the first place to tell them what they already know! If I need to correspond, again it’s not to Wicklow County Council, which sent out the letter, that I’m to address my issues, but to “Household Charge” at a post office box in Dublin. Despite the fact that the whole payment system for the household charge was an online one, the letter makes no mention of any contact email address for either “the Central Bureau” or Wicklow County Council. My reward for contacting the Central Bureau will be “to avoid receiving any further letters”. In my innocence, I made a few attempts to contact the LoCall number given, but then I thought to myself why not wait instead for the next instalment of this bureaucratic comedy of errors. – Is mise, JOHN GLENNON,
Ghandee wrote: » This letter gave me a good chuckle with my morning coffee.http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/letters/2012/1027/1224325794233.html And this letter came from the times, the greatest supporter, and propaganda spreader for the hhc since it began. We have the lads on here proclaiming on how non payers will be tracked down and harked before the courts etc. The problem I have with believing this nonsense is, they cannot even 'track down' the people who've already paid. :eek: Remember, these are people with whom they already have their credit card details/dd firms/cheques postal orders etc. Hogan should be hung out to dry due to this fiasco! I note over the past few days on this thread that even the vehement die hard supporters have died a little inside and refused to come on and speak in defence of the shambles.This one may just be defeated folks.
donalg1 wrote: » Zero chance of that happening Ghandee, despite the best efforts of the Councils to fúck it up, the HHC wont be scrapped and the property tax will be introduced.
Ghandee wrote: » Introducing is one thing, a successful introduction is another. Bearing in mind they still don't have databases, how are they going to work any property taxation system? I doubt it'll be self assessed, that didn't go down too well with the hhc.
donalg1 wrote: » Who knows how they plan on working it, knowing them they will do self registration system again I wouldnt put anything passed them. Its as if they go out of their way to mess things up.
FINANCE Minister Michael Noonan has said he is unable to "categorically" deny that taxpayers' money was used to prop up pensions of "disgraced senior bankers" in State-owned banks AIB and IBRC (the former Anglo Irish Bank). Only a week after his department strongly insisted that no State money went into funding the €1.1bn AIB pension bailout, Mr Noonan has conceded that it is very likely that taxpayers' money has "indirectly" been used to prop up pension funds in State-covered and State-owned banks. The revelation has brought stinging criticism from within his own party and from the opposition, which has called on the minister to make a full disclosure as to the extent of how taxpayers' money has been used. Mr Noonan, who has been under fire for the past two weeks for his admission that he is "powerless" to rein in top bankers' pay and pensions, is adamant that no taxpayers' money has directly gone into the pension funds. Yet, in what represents an embarrassing climbdown from his position just seven days ago, Mr Noonan admitted in a reply to a parliamentary question to his Fine Gael colleague, Olivia Mitchell, that it is possible that such bailout money may be have been used "indirectly" to prop up the pension funds in banks like AIB and IBRC.
Ghandee wrote: » The HHC is a tax, isn't that what we've been told repeatedly on this thread?http://www.independent.ie/national-news/banker-pensions-are-indirectly-funded-by-taxes-3296840.html We have been right in being suspicious.
Le_Dieux wrote: » Be interesting to see how the govt handle this abortion issue. Seems now there is discontent within the labour party, never mind their senior coalition partners: http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gilmore-is-facing-backbench-revolt-on-legislation-motion-3297154.html For me, this is too BIG an issue for politicians. Since when did they become experts in this emotional and tragic issue? More qualified people than bloody politicians ( gynaechologists for one ) to decide on this. Also as far as politicians are concerned, the ONLY thing they care about is their re-election, and are sh1t scared their stance on this issue will affect their numbers in an election. Thinking about themselves AGAIN!!!
Am Chile wrote: » Final Reminder for all non payers-national anti susterity march to take place-a week from saturday on November 24th-I hope all non payers will be able to make the march in a weeks time.
Slick50 wrote: » Any further information on this, where, when, time?
Details of protest:- Meet at Parnell Square, Dublin1p.m.Saturday 24th November Jointly orgainsed by Campaign Against Household & Water Taxes and Dublin Council of Trade Unions
Am Chile wrote: » From facebook the details. http://www.facebook.com/notes/campaign-against-household-and-water-taxes/press-statement-householders-call-for-a-massive-show-of-opposition-to-the-proper/434865499896367
Ghandee wrote: » Looks like they have something else to worry about now too.http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/john-downing-so-ffs-back-from-the-dead-but-do-we-need-it-3297096.html Now, you may ask yourself how did they go from being as good as annihilated in the last GE after bringing us to boom, and followed by a very swift bust, to rise back to being second most poular party, and with the most poular leader in Ireland, in less than two years? No shiit Sherlock, its because they came out and opposed the property tax :rolleyes:. As much as it sickens me to think of any property tax actually seeing the light of day, I'm more sickened by the fact that the Irish people have such short memories, and seem willing to be duped by this crowd of jokers, even if it is (I believe) largely due to their opposition to a property tax being introduced. Still though, if FG don't sit up and take note pretty soon, we all know were they can expect to find themselves resigned to, perhaps a lot sooner than anyone predicted.
