Deputy John Deasy has said that the senior consultants at WRH involved in the negotiations with the region's other hospitals are inept and are scapegoating politicians for their own failures. Deasy, who has been the most vocal public supporter of maintaining the regional hospital's status believes people who work at the regional hospital need to understand the background to the current situation and begin questioning the individuals who are responsible for representing WRH. He said, "I have arranged meetings in the past with these senior consultants from Waterford along with the CEO and senior officials from the HSE and government TD's from the region. The performance of these senior consultants was underwhelming to say the least. They are the ones who needed to make the argument based on medical best practice and they failed miserably. In my opinion others from the regional hospital need to step in immediately to rescue this situation before its too late." Deasy contends that the general issue of Waterford Regional Hospital and the South East hospital grouping is not as simple as it might seem. He maintains that some of the other consultants and hospitals within the South East Hospital group are leaning towards leaving the existing structure and creating partnerships with hospitals in Dublin where university hospital facilities are available. He said, "That is their choice if the Hospital Trust structure goes ahead. The senior consultants at WRH have lost the debate with Kilkenny and are losing the debate with Wexford." Deasy and the other Waterford TDs were heavily criticised for not attending a meeting last week about the future of Waterford Regional Hospital. Deasy said, "I've never actually experienced anything like it in my political career. I had texted, emailed and spoke to some of the senior consultants in question and informed them that I wasn't available to attend the meeting. They accepted my apologies but for some reason chose not to pass that
Psychedelic wrote: » http://www.waterford-today.ie/waterford-today-news/18226-deasy-condemns-wrh-senior-consultants-18226.html Apparently the majority of consultants in Wexford have last night voted in favour of keeping the South East hospital network, so Deasy looks to be wrong on that point.
leopard trek wrote: » but with the rest of them take full wage + expenses?
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Psychedelic wrote: » That's it exactly Deise Tom. The fact that Deasy had those things to say on WLR gives even more reason to why he should have attended the meeting in WIT. Someone said on here, or Twitter/Facebook, can't remember, that about half the City Councillors were at the meeting. I think there were some Co. Councillors at the meeting (Joe Conway from Tramore?). Don't know if Town & County Councillors were invited but you'd presume they were, or at the very least heard about it from someone else.
Dunmoreroader wrote: » This is what we're up against folks;http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/local/new-plan-for-st-luke-s-hospital-1-4449210
Dunmoreroader wrote: » Are you kidding? I thought it was akin to The Phoenix writting the headlines in the News & Star!:)
Swinng wrote: » Just reading that column it actually gives more reasons for St Luke's to stay within the South East and the only reason not too is so the consultants look good working within a University Hospital. So if WIT was upgraded to University they would be happy to stay within the structure.
fricatus wrote: » Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Upgrade WIT to University and WRH to University Hospital. Problem solved! I really don't understand this attitude from St Luke's. I really don't. They don't like working with WRH and don't like playing second fiddle to Waterford. Fair enough, but the problem they face is that the only place where it's going to be the biggest hospital is Kilkenny! Or maybe Carlow-Kilkenny. Within any sort of region, it's going to be one of the smaller hospitals. Do they think therefore that being part of a group with the Dublin hospitals (where it would be ranked somewhere between seventh and tenth behind Beaumont, Blanchardstown, the Mater, Crumlin, Vincent's, Tallaght, and maybe Naas, Navan and Drogheda) is better than being part of a SE group where it's the second-largest? That's the argument from the point of view of the hospital's own self interest... the argument from the point of view of patients living in Kilkenny is even more cut and dried! Waterford is closer (to all parts of Kilkenny) than Dublin! Do they think St Luke's would be upgraded as a result of throwing its hat in with Dublin? That's the only reasoning that makes sense to me, but I think if this all goes ahead, they're in for a nasty shock. They'll just be seen as an annoyance from down the country. Better the divil ye know lads!
Deise Tom wrote: » Sinn Fein can dress up or down what ever way they want, but the simple fact is that their councillors, TD's and Senators get EXACTLY the same as any other person in a similar job that is in any party. The only difference is that when they sign up to stand for the job they sign up to give the money they are due to the party and in return the party gives back a portion of it.
fricatus wrote: » Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Upgrade WIT to University and WRH to University Hospital. Problem solved!
7upfree wrote: » From March 14th, 2008. Still waiting.http://www.munster-express.ie/local-news/fine-gaels-university-pledge/ Fine Gael nationally has finally, officially, pledged to join in the fight for a university for Waterford. And its Education Spokesman Brian Hayes promised this week not to drop the cudgel until it is delivered.
jad2007 wrote: » I heard it, He made a few points Firstly he said in relation to not attending the meeting he said that he had to be at the Public Accounts Committee hearing in Dublin. He said that he notified the consultants of this in advance but they failed to tell the meeting that he couldnt attend. He called this the "weirdest thing that ever happened to me in politics" His next main point was that he had been working on this issue since last November and that basically some people were point scoring but trying to maintain none of the TD's were working on the issue. He said that it was not up to the government to decide which hospitals were in which grouping and that consulatants in Kilkenny were in favour of leaving the group. He then laid the blame for this at the feet of the consultants in Waterford and said they were impossible to deal with and had very high opinions of themselves. He also said that their performance in negotiations was "underwhelming"
Bards wrote: » .... or is it the fact that Consultants are paid more in Cork & Dublin than in WRH?.... or is it a case of looking after themselves first and their patients a distant 2nd
Chiparus wrote: » It was announced at the meeting , he is just an idiot who Kenny hates and if closing WRH gets at Deasy , it will be closed.
Sully wrote: » That's such a stupid statement to make. Kenny has nothing to do with the hospital being closed and you can be damn sure that he wont do something like this just for politics.
Deise Tom wrote: » But he has. He could very easily issue a statement in person or through Deasy or Coffey or any of the other FG TD's in the South East telling the people of the region that they have nothing to fear. The HSE or who-ever could decide to close part of it, but the government could always overrule them.
Chiparus wrote: » I actually believe decisions are made , then reports are commissioned to make findings to support the decision.
wellboytoo wrote: » Say's you , based on solid evidence, or blind loyalty to the FG party? KK do not want to be associated with WRH for what they see as the future threat of them being subsumed into the Waterford area, as they have the head office for the southeastern region and any clear thinking ( sic) government will in a time of cutbacks put the management and frontline in the same place as should have been done day one, only parochial politics took centre stage again.
Sully wrote: » He hasn't as of yet, anyway. Kenny has nothing to do with this as it stands. James Reilly ordered the report and he doesn't know the contents or its recommendations. Its until he receives it and then goes to cabinet will Kenny know about it.
Deise Tom wrote: » Is that the same report that Billy McCarthy said on Deise AM that he saw with Maurice Cummins. If it is, then that is a very stupid statement from you. Its nearly as stupid as the one made by a FF minister in the last government, might have been Brian Cowan, who claimed he had not read some report and was making coments on it.
