MadYaker wrote: » 3 people from Westport have already been to court for not paying, the cases against them have been adjourned until the 20th of December and it seems Mayo county council have issued court summons as well. So what do the anti HHC crew think now. Since it is now a real possibility are you lot prepared to go to court?
dvpower wrote: » As you are prepared to go to court what do you think the outcome of a court case might be?
Hijpo wrote: » A few people making the argument that cutting pensions, allowances and salaries is not going to make an impact on our deficit. On the flip side they think €160 million is going to make a difference to the €380 million in money that dublin council is down alone
MadYaker wrote: » Well there is no way you are going to win the case. I was listening to a conversation about this on newstalk, I think they had a solicitor on and he was saying that you will probably be fined and told to pay the HHC (including late payment fees) and the legal costs of the county/city council that brought you to court. So it could get quite expensive... And if you refuse to pay that I don't know what will happen... a jail sentence maybe? In reality it will never go that far with most people, once their county/city council starts issuing summons they will pay up.
tayto lover wrote: » I am for one. Won't pay a tax on my own home. They might have room for me in Sean Quinn's cell.
dvpower wrote: » As you are prepared to go to court
dvpower wrote: » what do you think the outcome of a court case might be?
MadYaker wrote: » A lot of people don't seem to realise that the legal system is based in what can be proved in court, not what actually happened. My point is that its very easy to prosecute someone for tax evasion in the case of the HHC, whereas it may be very difficult, or impossible to convict a "corrupt banker" of doing anything illegal.
bgrizzley wrote: » what you mean is that a banker can afford the best justice money can buy whereas us peasants cant...
MadYaker wrote: » Well there is no way you are going to win the case. I was listening to a conversation about this on newstalk, I think they had a solicitor on and he was saying that you will probably be fined and told to pay the HHC (including late payment fees) and the legal costs of the county/city council that brought you to court. So it could get quite expensive... And if you refuse to pay that I don't know what will happen... a jail sentence maybe? In reality it will never go that far with most people, as once the coalition fall mid next year, any new govt formed will have pledged to abolish the charge, fines attached etc etc
Ghandee wrote: » Yes. Might get my name in Stubbs gazette, seems to be all the rage these days.
Maggie 2 wrote: » Since being jailed is not an option, I recon you must have money to burn, as it will be taken from your wages/social welfare. You will end up paying hundreds of times over what the original charge was.
Vizzy wrote: » Did you not say in one of your posts that the HHC did not apply to you ?
tayto lover wrote: » They don't have the power to do that as has already been said.
MadYaker wrote: » The coalition falling eh? Its not that far fetched I suppose, there is definitely going to be a major fall out from the up-coming budget but if the coalition can survive that I reckon they will limp on to the next election. Any subsequent government may pledge to abolish the house hold charge however the implementation of a property tax is in our agreement with the troika so it could be a difficult pledge to follow through on.
Troika would accept property tax alternative, says FF MARY MINIHAN THE TROIKA is “not wedded” to a property tax and is open to the measure being replaced by an alternative that would raise the same revenue, Fianna Fáil finance spokesman Michael McGrath has said. He also said officials from the European Union, International Monetary Fund and European Central Bank had not suggested a blanket ban on property tax for pensioners, but stressed ability to pay had to be taken into account. Mr McGrath met members of the troika mission in Dublin this week and said they made “crystal clear” their position on the incoming tax. “We went at them very directly on that question. I wanted to get absolute clarity. They made it crystal clear all measures set out in the memorandum of understanding are open to being replaced with good-quality alternatives that meet the targets,” Mr McGrath said. “I explicitly asked them would that apply to property tax and they said yes. They are not wedded to a property tax.”
dvpower wrote: » New Fines Bill allows for attachment to income and assets.
Ghandee wrote: » I did?
Lucy and Harry wrote: » When you die the person that gets your house in a will has to pay it before they can receive the house.Is that true
