Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » It's hardly a ruse if they tell us what's going to happen, is it?
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » The fact that the Household Charge was a precursor to a full Property Tax was announced in last year's budget.
Ghandee wrote: » But they haven't told us what's going to happen, nor how they intend to calculate it.
Ghandee wrote: » The term 'tax evaders' is premature, they've evaded the hhc, not a tax.
Ghandee wrote: » But they haven't told us what's going to happen, nor how they intend to calculate it. Unless you know otherwise?
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » As has already been pointed out, what new tax rates are have never been announced before the budget. That's kind of what the budget is for. But it's been made very clear that a.) the Household Charge is a precursor to the Property Tax and b.) the Property Tax will be more. People are hardly being lied to here.
Ghandee wrote: » Lied to? They've been lied to by the coalition both to get into power, and lied to since they've got in. You point out that the property will be more, how much more? They expect people to voluntarily pay a hundred euro to enable the govt to charge them whatever the Hell they like from here on in? If they want a database, they can fcuking well set one up, charging people to do it for them is ridiculous, scandalous even.
Ghandee wrote: » Lied to? They've been lied to by the coalition both to get into power, and lied to since they've got in. You point out that the property will be more, how much more? They expect people to voluntarily pay a hundred euro to enable the govt to charge them whatever the Hell they like from here on in? If they want a database, they can fcuking well set one up, charging people to do it for them is ridiculous, scandalous even. Apparently, even though my house was 'exempt' this year, I had still to register too? Get the boat FG. I'll be exempt for the foreseeable future too, (or until the current govt inevitably falls) Bring in rates, give me services I can directly tie to a charge like up north. I'll happily pay then. (just for the folk who think I'm adverse to paying any tax) Must be a hell of a lot of ps/cs workers pensions and pay depending on this charge.
donalg1 wrote: » To me it seems perfectly normal for people to pay for their own water meters.
darkhorse wrote: » Very good analogy, Sherlock, but I dont remember ever claiming that I would like to own one.:(
lugha wrote: » You know. You referred to affordability. What were you referring to if it wasn’t the affordability of property tax????
donalg1 wrote: » Ah well I would prefer you to back up your nonsense if its all the same with you.
lugha wrote: » Because they do not have a complete register and have to make do with an ad-hoc solution. And we all know why they don’t have a complete register, don’t we?
darkhorse wrote: » I have made a decision. I am not going to backtrack or multi-quote anymore, if I think that people are not reading my posts(which is obvious in a lot of cases, cause why else would they come back with some of the things they do, like silly statements), or if I think that they are just deliberately being immature(they know who they are), when they know exactly what they are talking about.
lugha wrote: » Believing what we are told????? Have you acquired De Valera like powers and can look into the hearts (or perhaps wallets) of the Irish people and enlighten us on their fiscal matters? :)QUOTE] Yeah, it does look funny in print alright. No, I dont have any powers. I can just speak truthfully about my own fiscal matters. Other peoples fiscal matters, I just go on what I read in the newspapers, which I have no reason to disbelieve. There is definitly no advantage to me to say one thing and do another, in fact I cant think of anyone that would deliberatly say one thing in order to gain an advantage, then completely do the opposite once that advantage is realized---oh, wait a minute, maybe I'm remembering something.:rolleyes:
Ghandee wrote: » @ DV The term 'tax evaders' is premature, they've evaded the hhc, not a tax.
dvpower wrote: » Not this nonsense again.
Shenshen wrote: » Usually, that gets announced in the budget./QUOTE] Usually, that gets announced in Germany.:D
As the council meeting convened yesterday, he issued a brief statement claiming he needed time to sort out his financial affairs. Last week, the embattled public representative said he was "working on a repayments process" with Revenue’s collector general after his property business got into difficulties, owing €81,823
donalg1 wrote: » Round in circles with some
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » I fail to see what Cllr Michael Hegarty has to do with whether the houshold charge is a tax or not. I suppose if I evade customs duty, stamp duty, the Universal Social Charge or excise duty, I'm not a tax evader either?
Ghandee wrote: » Now now Donal. If some people insist on throwing the name 'tax evader' about, you shouldn't be surprised when they get reminded about a high profile member of their own party who is an actual tax evader.
donalg1 wrote: » Well thats fair enough, but so are those that havent paid the HHC, regardless of the C in the name.
Ghandee wrote: » See above. ^^
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » I'm not a Fine Gael supporter. Far from it. I've never voted for them in my life. But even if I was, it's still beside the point.
Ghandee wrote: » I never said you were?
Ghandee wrote: » If some people insist on throwing the name 'tax evader' about, you shouldn't be surprised when they get reminded about a high profile member of their own party who is an actual tax evader.
Ghandee wrote: » Thank you. Have a word with dv and Vlad there please.
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » In that case why did you say:
Ghandee wrote: » Post 675, 676.
Vladimir Kurtains wrote: » I don't see anyone claiming any party affiliation there either.
