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'Enough is Enough' - Lance Armstrong

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Armstrong Drops Fight Against Doping Charges

“There comes a point in every man’s life when he has to say, ‘Enough is enough,’ ” Armstrong said in a statement.

“The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today — finished with this nonsense.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/sports/cycling/lance-armstrong-ends-fight-against-doping-charges-losing-his-7-tour-de-france-titles.html

Lance's decision means he will be stripped of his seven Tour titles, the bronze medal he won at the 2000 Olympics and all other titles, awards and money he won from August 1998 on.

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el tel

I was in a restaurant last night. To be accurate it was more of a diner, but that's not important. A rather glum looking family of four sat in a booth opposite, each of them with faces buried in ther smartphones and wearing a****LiveStrong band on their wrist. That would have made them sad bastards at the best of times, but have they not being watching the news lately?

Junior

mitosis wrote: »

Sky pull publicity stunt, more like. This is mere image management. If there was any real resolve they'll be making a few redundancies.

As for who would sign, why, if a player is prepared to cheat, would signing a bit of paper make a difference to them?

So what was in those due diligence dossiers that Dave Brailsford trotted out when signing riders - f*ck all is my bet. This is at worst reinforcing the omertá (i.e. speak out and you'll be sacked) or at best a publicity stunt to cover up the fact they messed up in the first place and are no different from the rest when they've hired Yates, Leinders, Rodgers and Barry.

Cienciano

emtroche wrote: »

Emma O'Reilly and Shane Stokes are going to be on the Craig Doyle show tonight. RTE2 10.35

I'd be interested to hear more on the whole customs thing from 1998. Sounds very strange to me.

Even if Lance and Pat McQuaid were on I don't think I could watch if it's hosted by Craig Doyle

buffalo

el tel wrote: »

I was in a restaurant last night. To be accurate it was more of a diner, but that's not important. A rather glum looking family of four sat in a booth opposite, each of them with faces buried in ther smartphones and wearing a****LiveStrong band on their wrist. That would have made them sad bastards at the best of times, but have they not being watching the news lately?

Sounds like they to start using the phone stack:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Phone%20Stack

Hermy

Junior wrote: »

So what was in those due diligence dossiers that Dave Brailsford trotted out when signing riders - f*ck all is my bet. This is at worst reinforcing the omertá (i.e. speak out and you'll be sacked) or at best a publicity stunt to cover up the fact they messed up in the first place and are no different from the rest when they've hired Yates, Leinders, Rodgers and Barry.

That the omertà continues is clearly evidenced by the fact that so many within the sport have been 'shocked' by the revelations.

MPFG

I listened to the BBC 5 live programme on Monday ..(since then been trying to get rid of the Metroploitan police Virus from my computer, nothing to do with the programme I hasten to add) but I wondered when listening to Emma O' Reilly can she be prosecuted for admitting to drug smuggling ...not once but twice , once i think into Belguim and another time between France and Spain....strange

Also I found her attitude to it all a bit stange....as if it was all a bit of a lark .... and she kept laughing and refering to Armstrong a Lance this and Lance that.....

ThisRegard

MPFG wrote: »

Also I found her attitude to it all a bit stange....as if it was all a bit of a lark .... and she kept laughing and refering to Armstrong a Lance this and Lance that.....

She did say she had a great time at that point in her life, she was young and living in all sorts of places and that she wasn't going to let Armstrong, or the whole doping scandal, can't remember which exactly she said, ruin or cloud that time for her.

Cienciano

Anyone ever see Ferrari's web page? It's almost like a comedy page:
http://53x12.com/

Ride faster, longer, higher!
Train with the real coach of the Pro's.
Get your personalized training program, week by week from Dr. Michele Ferrari!

allybhoy

Cienciano wrote: »

Anyone ever see Ferrari's web page? It's almost like a comedy page:
http://53x12.com/

Haha never seen that! WTF! No mention of him loosing his license, banned from sport etc. Actually, whilst im typing and seeing as though there is a lot of talk in the last few pages about Team Sky I came across this on cyclismas and wanted to know what people think.

The interview took place after the punishing individual time trial, which Wiggins won by a country mile. We had an expert examine the photo, who stated it’s the median cubital vein that’s been tapped based on the position of the plaster.

Why is the plaster there?

The UCI passed a no needles policy in May of 2011 which stated the following (quote courtesy of cyclingnews.com article by Stephen Farrand):

The UCI Regulations now prohibit injections that have the aim of artificially improving performance or helping recovery. It means riders can no longer inject vitamins, sugars, enzymes, amino acids or antioxidants to aid recovery. It is hoped the ban will contribute to the eradication of doping by greatly reducing the use of injections in cycling.

Herein lies the problem. No one asked why Wiggins had a plaster, and the interesting fact is that Boulting, who conducted the interview, didn’t find the plaster on Wiggins arm as strange. According to sources within the Tour de France, there wasn’t any blood drawn for anti-doping purposes on that day

Beasty

allybhoy wrote: »

Team Sky I came across this on cyclismas and wanted to know what people think.

If you want to start a discussion speculating about any riders who have not been proven to have doped, think again

Thanks

Beasty

Cienciano

allybhoy wrote: »

Haha never seen that! WTF! No mention of him loosing his license, banned from sport etc.

He has a section on the "USADA conspiracy"!
http://53x12.com/do/show?page=article&id=123

Chips Lovell

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Ole Rodrigo

Cienciano wrote: »

Anyone ever see Ferrari's web page? It's almost like a comedy page:
http://53x12.com/

Dr Nick Michele Ferrari

allybhoy

Cienciano wrote: »

He has a section on the "USADA conspiracy"!
http://53x12.com/do/show?page=article&id=123

Haha, he also has a blog entry called "Giving Blood is good for the brain" Jesus, you couldnt write this shoite.

Beasty wrote: »

If you want to start a discussion speculating about any riders who have not been proven to have doped, think again

Thanks

Beasty

I just thought people might be interested in seeing that picture and the story to it...I know i was.

Oryx

Cienciano wrote: »

He has a section on the "USADA conspiracy"!
http://53x12.com/do/show?page=article&id=123

All that was missing from that effort was
'Lance? Lance who?'

Beasty

allybhoy wrote: »

I just thought people might be interested in seeing that picture and the story to it...I know i was.

You asked what people thought - it was quite clear what you were getting at. If you (or indeed anyone else) have any further questions about this take it to PM

Thanks

Beasty

Ellis Dee

Even after he is stripped of his titles and has to hand back any physical trophies, Armstrong will almost certainly still have many millions of dollars in his bank account - assuming he invested even a part of his income in the years it was rolling in - and will be able to enjoy financial security for the rest of his life.:)

If I was in his position, I'd say "enough is enough" as well.:rolleyes:

Bollbill

allybhoy wrote: »

Haha, he also has a blog entry called "Giving Blood is good for the brain" Jesus, you couldnt write this shoite.

I just thought people might be interested in seeing that picture and the story to it...I know i was.

I was mate. Be be careful what you do or say ion boards, the mods have to be seen to be doing something every day and have a ban quota to reach.

CramCycle

Bollbill wrote: »

I was mate. Be be careful what you do or say ion boards, the mods have to be seen to be doing something every day and have a ban quota to reach.

MOD VOICE: If we do, you shouldn't attempt to make it easy. There is a warning in thread after this for any further discussion or query on the matter to be by PM. Do not bring it up in thread again please. The next warning, will be some time off.

furiousox

el tel wrote: »

I was in a restaurant last night. To be accurate it was more of a diner, but that's not important. A rather glum looking family of four sat in a booth opposite, each of them with faces buried in ther smartphones and wearing a****LiveStrong band on their wrist. That would have made them sad bastards at the best of times, but have they not being watching the news lately?

Was it the Armstrongs?

Morrisseeee

Some odd ball comments flying to-and-fro on his Strava profile.

Q. Now that all his sponsors are deserting him, how poor will he become ? I assume he has huge legal bills etc.

el tel

RobFowl wrote: »

Hein "The Magnificent" offers his opinion...

http://tourdejose.com/2012/10/18/hein-verbruggen-vs-de-telegraaf-english-translations/

Hein Verbruggen: The only thing I can say is that there are many, many stories and allegations but not a tracé of EVIDENCE. There isn’t any. LA was never found positive, not by USADA either. And everyone who knows the control procedures knows there is nothing to arrange etc etc. I am a bit beyond the “tired of it” stadium. Have a good night! Hein.

Update:

http://espn.go.com/olympics/cycling/story/_/id/8518713/uci-react-time-lance-armstrong-doping-file wrote:

Verbruggen issued a statement through the UCI on Thursday contesting an article in Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf that said he believed there is no evidence against Armstrong.

"My reaction (to the newspaper) was strictly limited to the fact that Lance Armstrong was never found positive by the anti-doping laboratories, that there was no positive test and that there was nothing to be covered up," Verbruggen said.

Clear as mud then.

Finnrocco

Fran Millar Pro of SKy says that "Bradley and the other Top 5 in GC were tested for blood an urine after the final TT".

That clears up the "PlasterGate" conspiracy. Phew !

fat bloke

Finnrocco wrote: »

Fran Millar Pro of SKy says that "Bradley and the other Top 5 in GC were tested for blood an urine after the final TT".
!

Did they say whether or not they found any blood or urine?

ckeego

buffalo wrote: »

Sounds like they to start using the phone stack:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Phone%20Stack

Thanks for that, Buffalo...

I preferred this one though...

WFIO
September 26
A business acronym standing for "We're ****ed it's over"
Dear shareholders,

WFIO.

Yours Truly,

Lance.:)

buffalo

Had a piece on this with Shane Stokes on the 7pm sport program on Radio 1 this evening. They were picking apart Armstrong's lawyer's statements. I presume it's a podcast somewhere.

Most interesting bit of info (that I hadn't heard before) was that Armstrong's agent Bill Stapleton was one of those consulted during the founding of USADA (possibly WADA), and has been of late complaining about the rules that he helped draft.

ThisRegard

Apparently Armstrong and the UCI will be releasing statements tomorrow.

Coincidence both have decided to say something the same day?

Hermy

Link here buffalo.

ThisRegard wrote: »

Apparently Armstrong and the UCI will be releasing statements tomorrow.

Coincidence both have decided to say something the same day?

Hardly!:rolleyes:

Cienciano

ThisRegard wrote: »

Apparently Armstrong and the UCI will be releasing statements tomorrow.

Coincidence both have decided to say something the same day?

If Verbruggen had his way, it would be this:

ratracer

Why not go along and ask Mr K all about this whole sordid affair?

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/paul-kimmage-to-appear-at-irish-qa-event-before-libel-trial-with-uci/