BBDBB wrote: » Surely a simple "ah heyor, leave ii ouuu" would have calmed them all down?
yore wrote: » ilovesleep wrote: » We're such an educated bunch, is Irish are. Sure what will rioting do? Sersiously? Instead we'll sit back, begrudge each other, let the politicians reach into our back pockets and let them steal from the handicaps and the blind. The fcukers are only pretending anyways to be handicapped and blind. Your one in the wheelchair probably lied to get a free parking permit and that wheelchair was given to her free from the social. And as for the blindman, ah sure my little terrior can do the same as his dog. He's not even blind. He's just using his stick to beat his dog. And while we're snapping at each other - the high kings will be continued to be rewarded with their celtic tiger pay, perks and pensions and allowances. And we won't even say boo to them. Fair play them to those in spain. Yeah. We should try your version of mathematics where the government stop taking anything from your back pocket and simultaneously increase the money they give to handicaps and the blind... That should work..... If you want those handicaps and blind to get good services then you had better be prepared to pay for it. simple as that. The problem is that you don't want to pay for it but then want to moan at the consequences. Your attitude will turn this country into America. That is not a nice society to live in
ilovesleep wrote: » We're such an educated bunch, is Irish are. Sure what will rioting do? Sersiously? Instead we'll sit back, begrudge each other, let the politicians reach into our back pockets and let them steal from the handicaps and the blind. The fcukers are only pretending anyways to be handicapped and blind. Your one in the wheelchair probably lied to get a free parking permit and that wheelchair was given to her free from the social. And as for the blindman, ah sure my little terrior can do the same as his dog. He's not even blind. He's just using his stick to beat his dog. And while we're snapping at each other - the high kings will be continued to be rewarded with their celtic tiger pay, perks and pensions and allowances. And we won't even say boo to them. Fair play them to those in spain.
steddyeddy wrote: » Name a country that got out of recession by cutting more every year and reducing peoples disposable income?
CruelCoin wrote: » steddyeddy wrote: » Name a country that got out of recession by cutting more every year and reducing peoples disposable income? Name a country that managed to close the public spending gap by continuing to overspend?
steddyeddy wrote: » There are more options than "overspend" and "cutting back" available to a country. Its not black and white.
Faith+1 wrote: » Fair balls to them, at least they do something and not take it up the ass like the Irish.
Guy:Incognito wrote: » Yep. Nothing helps a country struggling to pay its way get back on its feet better than wrecking the place.
CruelCoin wrote: » Name a country that managed to close the public spending gap by continuing to overspend?
Faith+1 wrote: » They're giving the Council plenty of overtime, So it's a win win for everybody.
Guy:Incognito wrote: » and where does the money come from to pay them? borrowing and paying interest?
notnumber wrote: » Doubt they would be so upset if they had social welfare levels like us,
yore wrote: » Take what lying down? Those evil discriminatory laws that forbid them from working? Or the fact that society at large might not be able to continue to subsidise them to have the same standard of living as they are accustomed to. It's bullsh1t. Those Spanish, and 99.99% of Irish people have opportunities and comforts that most of the worlds population could only ever dream about. Spoilt children. Simple as that. If you don't want to "take it lying down" then get up off your arse and do something productive. Quit moaning about it and blaming everyone else for all your own personal failings.
Wicklowrider wrote: » debts incurred by a minority.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » Not a mention of the fact that money is being taken out of EVERYONE'S pockets to repay private gambling debts, and corrupt former politicians, and special advisors, and NAMA directors and God knows who else. Sickening.
CruelCoin wrote: » The vast majority of the debts are as a result of the reckless borrowing on the part of every tom dick and harry, in asking for a 110% mortgage they could only ever repay if times were only ever sunny. The economy slowed, they reneged on their mortgages, and the rest is history. It's extremely unfair to pin all the blame on the politicians/bankers as they are just running around putting out fires created by reckless borrowing.
fando wrote: » In other words: all those proles should be happy that they were given the opportunity to drive their BMW/wear their 100€ stone-washed jeans for a while. If they didn't see the system was flawed back then - they shouldn't protest now.
Piliger;80957836]To be honest it's hard to see how they can wreck it more than it already is. A country of lazy good for nothings who sucked up billions from the EU and spent it on retiring at 45, paying no taxes and making work an optional extra. Ireland can be deeply proud that we faced up to our own mess and didn't flinch from realising that only we can fix it. We won't have riots because the vast majority of Irish people know what we are doing is the right thing and Kenny is doing a damned fine job of it.
