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Johnadpihb

Hi I would like to open a new classified website like

www.donedeal.ie or
www.adverts.ie or
www.adspage.ie

Do u hhave any idea how much it will cost for buy irish domain , hosting and web developing ?

Plz Fl Free To contact me

Thanks
Regards
John

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Axwell

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055802922

tatrman

Johnadpihb wrote: »

Hi I would like to open a new classified website like

www.donedeal.ie or
www.adverts.ie or
www.adspage.ie

Do u hhave any idea how much it will cost for buy irish domain , hosting and web developing ?

Plz Fl Free To contact me

Thanks
Regards
John

for Irish domain you need registered company. Domain is around 25/year. For the site serving with multiple thousands visits you need big server, but you could start with the option for around 1.500 a year + fees for support.
web development would cost as well good few thousands. but again you could start with basic and simplified version to test your ability to do this kind of project.

Sup08

tatrman wrote: »

for Irish domain you need registered company

or a valid reason (irish blog, forum, info site, tourism), business idea,. charity or just your name as an Irish citizen

oldat31

Sup08 wrote: »

or a valid reason (irish blog, forum, info site, tourism), business idea,. charity or just your name as an Irish citizen

I always believed the only time you dont need business proof for a .ie is when it is a personal name....

If I wanted to created a blog on a .ie unless its a personal name I still have to provide some sort of vat number or proof of business....?

Sup08

oldat31 wrote: »

Sup08 wrote: »

or a valid reason (irish blog, forum, info site, tourism), business idea,. charity or just your name as an Irish citizen

I always believed the only time you dont need business proof for a .ie is when it is a personal name....

If I wanted to created a blog on a .ie unless its a personal name I still have to provide some sort of vat number or proof of business....?

You register your .ie for whatever you want and IEDR will asses your application for the .ie domain. You may have to fill in extra material for the application with reasons and an explanation why the paticular name for your .ie and it will be assessed on that basis. They may even call you.
But as long as you have a very valid reason for a domain with the .ie and it is relative to Ireland then it is done on a per application basis and takes a slight bit longer than the standard .com .net etc.

oldat31

I never knew that.

Sup08

oldat31 wrote: »

I never knew that.

They can only say no.

Sully

Domain about 25 a year, bit of a pain to get at times but use someone who has experience and your grand.

Hosting can be about €40sh a year will do you fine for the first few years and if you need to upgrade to better hosting if the site grows, then you can do so at a later stage.

Website like that, if you want it done properly, would be over 2k. Prices have came down a bit in the recession (and its down to the wire) so its a good time to get websites.

MagicRon

Sully wrote: »

Website like that, if you want it done properly, would be over 2k. Prices have came down a bit in the recession (and its down to the wire) so its a good time to get websites.

You won't get anything like DoneDeal or Adverts for 2k.

jmcc

Sully wrote: »

Website like that, if you want it done properly, would be over 2k. Prices have came down a bit in the recession (and its down to the wire) so its a good time to get websites.

You may be missing a zero or two in that estimate, Sully.
Database driven websites (beyond the trivial small footprint (<10MB) MySQL databases) are like icebergs in that the user only sees a small fraction of what is going on in the background. A good site like that would require database servers, webservers and, most expensively, good database architects and marketing.

Just for the OP, the web is littered with abandoned me-too attempts at replicating Ebay,Craigslist Donedeal.ie or Adverts.ie. Most of them are built by web developers who completely underestimate the level of advertising, administration and business expertise involved in such a site. Building such a site properly is expensive and hard work. Now you may get some web developer to build some kind of site on Wordpress or Joomla that won't scale beyond a few simultaneous users for around 2K. If that's all you want then Wordpress and some plug-ins might be fine. However if you are going head to head with Donedeal,ie or Adverts.ie then you might need a bit more.

Regards...jmcc

Sully

MagicRon wrote: »

You won't get anything like DoneDeal or Adverts for 2k.

Over 2k is what I said.

There is a perception out there that these things can be produced cheap, that they don't cost anything ("Sure, its only Input and Output with a bit of an awl design"). I wasn't giving a price, I just wanted to point out it would be over the standard limit many businesses have and are willing to put into websites. I have had people asking for large development work and they step back when the price gets heavy.

jmcc wrote: »

You may be missing a zero or two in that estimate, Sully.
Database driven websites (beyond the trivial small footprint (<10MB) MySQL databases) are like icebergs in that the user only sees a small fraction of what is going on in the background. A good site like that would require database servers, webservers and, most expensively, good database architects and marketing.

Just for the OP, the web is littered with abandoned me-too attempts at replicating Ebay,Craigslist Donedeal.ie or Adverts.ie. Most of them are built by web developers who completely underestimate the level of advertising, administration and business expertise involved in such a site. Building such a site properly is expensive and hard work. Now you may get some web developer to build some kind of site on Wordpress or Joomla that won't scale beyond a few simultaneous users for around 2K. If that's all you want then Wordpress and some plug-ins might be fine. However if you are going head to head with Donedeal,ie or Adverts.ie then you might need a bit more.

Regards...jmcc

I wouldn't expect any startup to invest heavily in a big system considering its going to take a long time before the site gets up and running. The odds are it will fail. Build to expand.

Johnadpihb

MagicRon wrote: »

You won't get anything like DoneDeal or Adverts for 2k.

Hey gus thanks for your reply

i know i wont get site like DoneDeal or Adverts.ie for 2K , But what about other growing site like

www.adspage.ie or http://www.carsireland.ie

or www.cashforyourcar.ie/ like that ?

I was looking hosting , Irish hosting is expensive but i can buy from Ebay or other us hosting company , which will cost me about $100/Y

smash

Johnadpihb wrote: »

But what about other growing site like

www.adspage.ie or http://www.carsireland.ie

or www.cashforyourcar.ie/ like that ?

adspage - not a growing site.
carsireland - owned by Independent news and media
cashforyourcar - not a classifieds website, it's an independent used car dealer.

oldat31

Johnadpihb wrote: »

Hey gus thanks for your reply

i know i wont get site like DoneDeal or Adverts.ie for 2K , But what about other growing site like

www.adspage.ie or http://www.carsireland.ie

or www.cashforyourcar.ie/ like that ?

I was looking hosting , Irish hosting is expensive but i can buy from Ebay or other us hosting company , which will cost me about $100/Y

Dont buy hosting because its cheap, I have a hosting account that offers me unlimeted space and bandwitdh but it only costs me 60 euro a year. It works for me because it covers what I need......

Also if you are planning a site with an Irish target market then get hosting inside the euro. Remember if you host in the usa when someone goes to the site the info has to travel to the USA and back....

jmcc

oldat31 wrote: »

Dont buy hosting because its cheap, I have a hosting account that offers me unlimeted space and bandwitdh but it only costs me 60 euro a year. It works for me because it covers what I need......

No such thing as unlimited space and bandwidth. Retail/shared hosting is generally oversold because most people will never really use their allocation of hard drive space and bandwidth. That said, the cheap hosting point is a good one. Much of the budget hosting market (in the US and elsewhere) is composed of smaller hosters (sometimes students on holidays) reselling the services of much larger hosters and registrars. If something goes wrong then you are dependent on them contacting their supplier to get the problem sorted. Irish hosting pricing has improved over the last five years or so. But the important aspect is that the Irish hoster is in the same timezone and this means that you can contact them during Irish business hours.

Also if you are planning a site with an Irish target market then get hosting inside the euro. Remember if you host in the usa when someone goes to the site the info has to travel to the USA and back....

Most Irish ISPs are on the INEX (Irish Internet Exchange http://www.inex.ie )- this means that data passing between Irish ISPs will effectively stay in Ireland without having to be routed to the USA (or somewhere in Europe) and back.

Regards...jmcc

jmcc

Sully wrote: »

I wouldn't expect any startup to invest heavily in a big system considering its going to take a long time before the site gets up and running. The odds are it will fail. Build to expand.

It has been suggested here on other threads that people could test the market with a Wordpress/Joomla implementation to see if the business idea would work. This would be a lot cheaper than having a real auction system and hosting setup built only to find out that it gets a few visitors a day and no business.

Building a scalable website and business is a whole different argument.

Regards...jmcc

cormee

Test the water before you jump in, try something like this http://www.appthemes.com/themes/classipress/

gomez_gomes

Johnadpihb wrote: »

Hi I would like to open a new classified website like

www.donedeal.ie or
www.adverts.ie or
www.adspage.ie

Do u hhave any idea how much it will cost for buy irish domain , hosting and web developing ?

Plz Fl Free To contact me

Thanks
Regards
John

Website that you have mentioned are all database oriented website.. Irish domains you can get any point... Websites like those will cost you something around 3 to 4k... Depending what you want and what extra or different you want.. we do built that's sort off website. If you need or any suggestion. You can p.m. me if you want. All the best.

maxmarmalade

We are building a an open source classified ads plugin for Yii frameowrk at the moment. We could help you build this cheaply (<1k). PM me for details and a look at our portfolio

maxmarmalade

maxmarmalade wrote: »

We are building a an open source classified ads plugin for Yii frameowrk at the moment. We could help you build this cheaply (<1k). PM me for details and a look at our portfolio

Sorry meant <2k.Still pretty cheap:-)

jmcc

gomez_gomes wrote: »

Websites like those will cost you something around 3 to 4k...

I think that a high traffic, database backed website would cost somewhat more than 3 to 4k. Large scale database backed websites are things that few web developers have any experience with because they are quite specialised and require a wider range of expertises (database architecture, scripting languages, web design, technology, networking) than a simple Wordpress/Joomla site with a few plugins on shared hosting. Now a Wordpress/Joomla (or even an Open Source clasified adverts script) site might be good to test the idea but large sites tend to be quite different in requirements and costs.

Regards...jmcc

gomez_gomes

jmcc wrote: »

I think that a high traffic, database backed website would cost somewhat more than 3 to 4k. Large scale database backed websites are things that few web developers have any experience with because they are quite specialised and require a wider range of expertises (database architecture, scripting languages, web design, technology, networking) than a simple Wordpress/Joomla site with a few plugins on shared hosting. Now a Wordpress/Joomla (or even an Open Source clasified adverts script) site might be good to test the idea but large sites tend to be quite different in requirements and costs.

Regards...jmcc

Hey well said..yea man your dead right.. but now days you just can't get through the pre-made module.. its vague now..so experts goes for custom made.. so who designs it..he knows in and out.. & the good things is its friendly too with search engine... trust me... i think your vision is BIG so tryin doing unique to it.. or else consequences will be there..so think over it..

Gomez

tatrman

Hosting could be very cheap for a testing site or if you want to put up just development alpha or beta version with no real traffic. If you have this in mind you don't need to worry about it. The cost of the development is a different story. You probably could get some guys do some work for a share in your business but be prepared that it will probably not work as planed.