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Fianna Gwael.

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What is it with RTE newsreaders making up their own pronunciations of words? Where the f uck did the word gwael come from? When they're talking about football do they call it gwaelic football, no off course they f uck ing don't! No matter what dialect or accent they may be using the word Gael (gale) will never have a w in it. Tossers.

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smash

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

the acronym is for 3 Irish words not English ones.

radio isn't an Irish word.

I know Raidió is, but the R is still pronounced the same isn't it?

LordSutch

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

aye, RTE presenters are taught to say Irish words according to the pronunciation of the Irish letters hence why it is 'arrrr' t. e and not r.t.e because the acronym is for 3 Irish words not English ones.
Simple as that, they're saying it the proper way

Some RTE newsreaders say it one way, and some the other, take Paul Reynolds for example who is a really good exponent of the exaggerated Orr.Tee.E sound.

veryangryman

CJC999 wrote: »

What is it with RTE newsreaders making up their own pronunciations of words? Where the f uck did the word gwael come from? When they're talking about football do they call it gwaelic football, no off course they f uck ing don't! No matter what dialect or accent they may be using the word Gael (gale) will never have a w in it. Tossers.

They also call PortLaoise "PORT-LEESHA". :mad::mad::mad:

Seanchai

veryangryman wrote: »

They also call PortLaoise "PORT-LEESHA". :mad::mad::mad:

I'd be more embarrassed at the people who call it PortLeesh. Serious lack of education going on there.

summerskin

ballsymchugh wrote: »

are them the wans working for aaaar-t-e?

Have you seen the Dara O'Brien skit where he's pointing out that nobody in the UK understands him when he says the letter "orr"?

That's because it's pronounced "arr". Did you never watch Sesame St., or any programmes from outside Ireland????

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

aye, RTE presenters are taught to say Irish words according to the pronunciation of the Irish letters hence why it is 'arrrr' t. e and not r.t.e because the acronym is for 3 Irish words not English ones.
Simple as that, they're saying it the proper way

In English the letter is pronounced "arr".

snubbleste

veryangryman wrote: »

They also call PortLaoise "PORT-LEESHA". :mad::mad::mad:

That's close to the correct pronunciation.

smash

summerskin wrote: »

That's because it's pronounced "arr". Did you never watch Sesame St., or any programmes from outside Ireland????

Or pirate of the caribbean?

Seanchai

LordSutch wrote: »

I have heard it pronounced like this from time to time (by just one or two) RTE presenters, but it sounds wrong.

Of course it does to you, Lord Sutch. It's closer to the correct pronunciation of that Irish name in Irish. Why pronounce something correctly when you can pronounce it incorrectly - especially when it's an Irish word?

Lord Sutch engages in yet another "something English is better than something Irish" shocker on Boards.ie.

Stabshauptmann

veryangryman wrote: »

They also call PortLaoise "PORT-LEESHA". :mad::mad::mad:

Because that's the correct pronunciation.

I'm from Laois, I know that locals commonly call it "port leesh". But that doesnt change the fact that the name is correctly pronounced as gaeilge as "port leesh a"

But thats not how its usually referred to by Laois people. No, if RTE were to pander to your ilk we'd need "Tommy Gorman reporting from the town, where violence has erupted in "port laaysh" jail"

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CJC999 wrote: »

What is it with RTE newsreaders making up their own pronunciations of words? Where the f uck did the word gwael come from? When they're talking about football do they call it gwaelic football, no off course they f uck ing don't! No matter what dialect or accent they may be using the word Gael (gale) will never have a w in it. Tossers.

Seeing as we're been pedantic, it's fine, not fianna.

Stabshauptmann

Alvaro Helpful Rivalry wrote: »

Seeing as we're been pedantic, it's fine, not fianna.

Not pedantic enough!

I'm sure the OP knows that it is spelled "fine" but thinks that it is pronounced "fianna".
"Fine" is an irish word, not pronounced like the english word of the same spelling (rhymes with shine) nor like the word Fianna ("feen-na", but it is close. Its pronounced "f-win-a"

Stabshauptmann

Actually can I just solve the thread?

OP: I can't pronounce Irish
Rabble: And its stupid language anyway, we should pronounce things the english way
Rabble: No, we should just agree that the correct way is the way people speak, and around my way its XYZ, so thats the right way
Rabble: Rabble rabble rabble
Non-Idiot: But, look here, this accredited text books clearly says...
Rabble: BURN THE WITCH!

LordSutch

trollin trollin trollin wrote: »

Am i the only one to notice that Sharon ni Bheolain speaks in a low sex voice while reading the news now that she didn't have a few years ago.I not complaining though

Campare these videos to see what i mean.There are better examples of it out there though but these are all i found under short notice.

Finally, after about two years somebody else has commented on this!

I think I started a thread about her fake husky voice many moons ago, but nobody else could hear it.

LordSutch

Seanchai wrote: »

Of course it does to you, Lord Sutch. It's closer to the correct pronunciation of that Irish name in Irish. Why pronounce something correctly when you can pronounce it incorrectly - especially when it's an Irish word?

Lord Sutch engages in yet another "something English is better than something Irish" shocker on Boards.ie.

The thing is Seanchai, people are getting sick and tired of your rabid and unhealthy obsession with all things English/British even when they are not part of the narrative. Your latest portrayl being that because I say 'arr' instead of 'Orr' then I must be English, you are like a broken record Seanchai. Take the latest BAN handed out to you only yesterday for this kind of ranting > http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80556051&postcount=43.

hoodwinked

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

aye, RTE presenters are taught to say Irish words according to the pronunciation of the Irish letters hence why it is 'arrrr' t. e and not r.t.e because the acronym is for 3 Irish words not English ones.
Simple as that, they're saying it the proper way

no they aren't they call it R-T-E

e as in eee

but if you look that e has a fada over it and should be pronounced like the english letter 'a'

so if it was pronounced right it would sound like: R-T-A :pac:

also

its Fine (sounds like Feena or sheena with a f instead of the sh) gael, and Fianna (fi-an-na) fáil.

Seanchai

LordSutch wrote: »

Your latest portreyal....[blah, blah, blah]

:rolleyes: None of this irrelevant, turgid post detracts from the fact that you are wrong about the indisputably (by educated people) correct pronunciation of Fine Gael, and other Irish words. At least try and stay on topic. Pronouncing Irish words correctly evidently does not sit well with your prejudices. In fairness to you, though, you don't seem to have much of an affinity with spelling or pronouncing English words correctly either, despite all your lauding of all things British here. It's that obscurantist mentality of rejecting knowledge generally and embracing ignorance. Before looking down on all things Irish, and giving lectures on correct pronunciations in that language, perhaps you could at least master the language you laud so much. Or is it easier for you to hate others than to put the work into being good at something like English/defining yourself positively?

Helpful hints:

1) Ditch your IE browser and start using Chrome or Firefox. That way you will have a spellchecker built into each post you make here. You will look more thoughtful and erudite than you are.

2) Learn how to link properly here. It's simple, and shows you at least put some work, yes work, into your ranting benighted posts.

LordSutch

Seanchai wrote: »

Pronouncing Irish words correctly evidently does not sit well with your prejudices. In fairness to you, though, you don't seem to have much of an affinity with spelling or pronouncing English words correctly either, despite all your lauding of all things British here. It's that obscurantist mentality of rejecting knowledge generally and embracing ignorance. Before looking down on all things Irish, and giving lectures on correct pronunciations in that language, perhaps you could at least master the language you laud so much. Or is it easier for you to hate others than to put the work into being good at something like English/defining yourself positively?

That's it Seanchai, you are a lost cause, sinking deeper and deeper into your obsessive British/English/ Anti Irish mire . . . ad Nauseam.
Remember that it was only yesterday that you were handed out a ban for this unhealthy obsession.

> http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80556051&postcount=43.

Stab*City

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/samantha-libreri/27/402/221

Its library! FFS RTE are trying to start their own version of the english language.. Man that paul reynolds is very bad. I know people in Kerry who actually thought he was English.

emeraldstar

Alvaro Helpful Rivalry wrote: »

Seeing as we're been pedantic, it's fine, not fianna.

Seeing as you're being pedantic, can I be pedantic?

pickarooney

summerskin wrote: »

Have you seen the Dara O'Brien skit where he's pointing out that nobody in the UK understands him when he says the letter "orr"?

That's because it's pronounced "arr". Did you never watch Sesame St., or any programmes from outside Ireland????

In English the letter is pronounced "arr".

With two silent Rs?

goose2005

Seanchai wrote: »

I'd be more embarrassed at the people who call it PortLeesh. Serious lack of education going on there.

Exactly. It's Maryborough.

Seanchai

B0jangles wrote: »

But virtually no-one who live there, works there or regularly visits the place calls it Doon Layorah - they call it Dun Leary. That is its name in normal usage.

Educated people there do, however, pronounce Dún Laoghaire correctly. There's a correct way, and an incorrect way to pronounce Dún Laoghaire. It will be a sad day when educated people pronounce things the way the average ignoramus does simply because there are obviously more ignorami than educated people living in Dún Laoghaire.

PS: I note Lord Sutch, our resident British unionist hater of all things Irish, supports your post. Take it that the Royal British Legion, the British Empire, Orange Order and Her Majesty the Queen also approve. Then reflect.

Seanchai

summerskin wrote: »

Have you seen the Dara O'Brien skit where he's pointing out that nobody in the UK understands him when he says the letter "orr"?

Since when did the former Fianna Fáil TD for Dublin North make skits?

B0jangles

Seanchai wrote: »

Educated people there do, however, pronounce Dún Laoghaire correctly. There's a correct way, and an incorrect way to pronounce Dún Laoghaire. It will be a sad day when educated people pronounce things the way the average ignoramus does simply because there are obviously more ignorami than educated people living in Dún Laoghaire.

PS: I note Lord Sutch, our resident British unionist hater of all things Irish, supports your post. Take it that the Royal British Legion, the British Empire, Orange Order and Her Majesty the Queen also approve. Then reflect.

FYI the correct plural of ignoramus is ignoramuses, "ignorami" is only used by the inadequately educated.

Where To

A British/Irish argument conducted in a language that is neither Irish or British? :P

LordSutch

As fas back as I can remember Fine Gael has been pronounced Finna Gale (in Dublin). I guess there are variations around the country though, but I never fail to smile when little Willie O'Dea of Fianna Fáil calls them Fine Gale (fine pronounced like a parking fine) with no accent on the word at all.

Poor old Seanchai, he's really cracking up now, bans and warnings all over the show, and he's still going at it, must be a British full moon.

Lawrence1895

I'm from Germany, nobody really expects me to speak Irish. So I just call them...(insert rude wort of your choice)

RoundBox11

It drives me nuts.

"Fine Gwale have been discussing the Gordee in the Doyle this afternoon..... Plastic Sheeting, ArrrTE news, Leinster house.

holystungun9

ballsymchugh wrote: »

are them the wans working for aaaar-t-e?

This is Pirate Pete here on Sea Shanty FM...

Augmerson

Seanchai wrote: »

This, OP, this. Back to school with you.

Gaelic = English word, therefore English pronunciation. Fine & Gael = Irish words, therefore Irish pronunciations. It really shouldn't be *that* difficult to understand. Most educated Irish people get it - for instance, they pronounce Deirdre with the same 'ah' ending that is in Fine, Gráinne, Aoife, Portlaoise. And so on. It's correctly more like Fina Gwael, or using the phonetic alphabet ˈfʲɪnʲə ˈɡeːl̪ˠ.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY in Laois ever calls Portlaoise Portlaoise. Portlaoise used to be called Maryborough before we became the Free State. I have only ever heard on RTE people calling it like that with the added emphasis on the e at the end.