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Akarinn

How abouts we get this "irish" guild craic up and running ontime for MoP?

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Akarinn

That being said i have no interest of moving to another realm, and as stated before this "Irish" guild thing doesnt work for very long.... Been tried enough times to know that it doesnt work.
Paying € for something that is going to fall apart after a few weeks just isnt worth it imo.

Iv said in previous posts that i dont mind if we dont make an "irish" guild..

We just all move to a server and join an already established guild on that server.. That way we can all play/raid together without having any responsibility's.

Simple as that..

Its not gonna be an "Irish" Guild.. its just gonna be a group of us from boards in a random guild.

I just cant see how this is sinking in with some people...

Akarinn

Yeah. Im in one of the only 25m guilds left and even we have been 10m for the last few months....

Same with my main guild.

Too many people left in the last few months and now the guild has basically been demoted to a 10man guild. It will be a 25man guild tho in MoP, everyone will come back and all will be good...

il be leaving my main there and transferring an alt to whatever server we decide on.. because we WILL decide on a server before MoP hits

TheDoc

Akarinn wrote: »

I just cant see how this is sinking in with some people...

Because most of us went along for the ride in one of the previous 50 boards guilds that were made up. The main issues being

Split between raiders, casuals, absolute slackers, beginners
Absolutely zero dedication to anything
Its a flavour of the month, everyone up for it for about a week and then leave
Absolutely ZERO candidates to run the guild properly
Absolutely ZERO candidates to actually raid lead
Most of us already have guilds/connections/friends who we play with.
Boards.ie wow guilds were typically slackers looking to get carried through raiding.

That's my experience through three of them in the last, what, seven years?

This game is over 8 years old, everyone has their own guild or group of friends they play with, or the server they are home too.

There is a minute chance that the lads I played with will come back, but even if they didn't, I wouldn't consider joining a boards.ie guild. They are a short term social ego rub, there is no longterm plan and they all die and fizzle quickly.

And to be fair that is the same with EVERY boards group that gets together for ANY game I've experienced, it goes for about a week - three weeks and then its dead in the pan.

And not being bad you spouting like mad for everyone to join together, without outlining, one thing, you can provide for the guild, what you want or anything.

Are you running this guild?
Is it PVP
Is it PVE
etc
etc

Shougeki

Gonna agree with TheDoc on this. There seems to be pretty much no interest in getting this off the ground, to be honest.

Akarinn

Because most of us went along for the ride in one of the previous 50 boards guilds that were made up. The main issues being

Split between raiders, casuals, absolute slackers, beginners
Absolutely zero dedication to anything
Its a flavour of the month, everyone up for it for about a week and then leave
Absolutely ZERO candidates to run the guild properly
Absolutely ZERO candidates to actually raid lead
Most of us already have guilds/connections/friends who we play with.
Boards.ie wow guilds were typically slackers looking to get carried through raiding.

That's my experience through three of them in the last, what, seven years?

This game is over 8 years old, everyone has their own guild or group of friends they play with, or the server they are home too.

There is a minute chance that the lads I played with will come back, but even if they didn't, I wouldn't consider joining a boards.ie guild. They are a short term social ego rub, there is no longterm plan and they all die and fizzle quickly.

And to be fair that is the same with EVERY boards group that gets together for ANY game I've experienced, it goes for about a week - three weeks and then its dead in the pan.

And not being bad you spouting like mad for everyone to join together, without outlining, one thing, you can provide for the guild, what you want or anything.

Are you running this guild?
Is it PVP
Is it PVE
etc
etc

Alright lads im in a pissy mood because Guild Wars 2 wont register for me so here goes..

All those points you just made a soo wrong!

All im asking is you transfer your character to a RANDOM server and join a RANDOM guild. We wont be running the guild. We are just going to be casual members, if u want to raid u can raid, if you dont wanna , then dont. SIMPLE.

Are you running this guild?
Is it PVP
Is it PVE
etc
etc

This here doesnt count if we just all join a random guild??!!
Bring an alt to whatever server we choose, and play on the alt whenever.. Keep your Main Character on your own server , in your own guild.!

Can ye see where im going?

It cannot be any more simple then that...

Calhoun

What server would you transfer to though? You would need to do your research as 25 euro is a steep price to pay for a dead server.

Akarinn

What server would you transfer to though? You would need to do your research as 25 euro is a steep price to pay for a dead server.

Keep reading the comments above..

Servers have been suggested.

Calhoun

Ok but i meant more what server do you think people should go to and why? What is the justification?

Why not use some of the already populated Irish servers like Outland ect.

witless1

Akarinn wrote: »

All those points you just made a soo wrong!

I'm going to side with Doc on pretty much all his points as someone who helped run the last main Irish guild. ATT was the last mostly Irish guild and was advertised heavily here on boards. Out of a 9 month lifecycle we got maybe 10-15 people from boards who came into the guild, none made it into the main raid group on a permanent basis. Some expected to be carried, applying to a raiding guild with terrible gear / enchants / gems / spec. Some came in purely as casuals which is great, you shouldalways have people to run dungeons with, I can't recall a single dungeon I ran with a boardsie. Why? Because they never bothered logging on. Great chatter about a boards guild, great enthusiasm but zero end product. Just take a look at the Doomhammer experiment last year, great initiative, unreal surge and it seeded Doomhammer with an Irish population. That realm would be ideal for what you want, unfortunately it's a low pop realm.

Akarinn wrote: »

Bring an alt to whatever server we choose, and play on the alt whenever.. Keep your Main Character on your own server , in your own guild.!

Can ye see where im going?

It cannot be any more simple then that...

A plan like that won't work either because of the fact your alt is in isolation to the rest of your characters which are established on your mains server. Like I could pay the money, send over a char and a few k gold, have two maxed out professions (which my mains account now loses access to) and be self sufficient without any problems. After a few weeks the Irish contingent in said guild just don't bother logging on, I'm then left in a random guild, on a random server with random people I don't know. I then go LFR & LFD on said alt because of the fact I literally don't know anybody, which defeats the point of being on the server in the first place. I then pay money to transfer my alt back. The alternative is I start a level 1 character and level to max, only for the same conclusion to happen. I save my €€€ but can never recover the hours of my life I wasted on levelling an alt for nothing. I have enough dead alts on random realms thanks to downtimes and notions I had over the years.

The only way that any kind of consolidated Irish venture will take off is if the battletag system comes in with proper cross realm raiding and facilities for it (e.g. an x-realm guild). As Doc said, it's an 8 year old game and habits are hard to break, friendships even harder. If I am online for an hour I want to dungeon hop with people I actually know and can have banter with on mumble. I'm all for expanding that group of players, but another alt on another server isn't something that people are interested in. So Outland, queues and all, is your realm of choice if you want to join any random guild and have a sizeable Irish present.

Akarinn

Alright lads.

i cba with your moaning anymore..

do what yous like, which chances are.. is nothing.

I used to read these forums and be glad there was still some sort of irish community playing wow and enjoying the game, but clearly theres nothing left but moaners and people who WONT take a chance and move server.

badbeatcentral

Akarinn wrote: »

Alright lads.

i cba with your moaning anymore..

do what yous like, which chances are.. is nothing.

I used to read these forums and be glad there was still some sort of irish community playing wow and enjoying the game, but clearly theres nothing left but moaners and people who WONT take a chance and move server.

Hope you're happy now guys, you missed out on the chance to be in a guild with ^this mongoloid. Oh what 'craic' would of been had. There's always next expansion....

Shougeki

Akarinn wrote: »

Can ye see where im going?

It cannot be any more simple then that...

Simpler still would be to stay where we are, as this project is doomed, and i would imagine all of us are pretty happy where we are, otherwise we probably wouldnt be playing the game.

Akarinn wrote: »

Alright lads.

i cba with your moaning anymore..

do what yous like, which chances are.. is nothing.

I used to read these forums and be glad there was still some sort of irish community playing wow and enjoying the game, but clearly theres nothing left but moaners and people who WONT take a chance and move server.

Dont see people moaning. I see you not providing any valid reasoning, or seem to have put any thought into it.

People are just explaing this has been tried a number of times, and every time has failed. Badly.

If you want people to spend 25€ on something, you should at least have the decency to put a bit of effort into the idea. You saying its simple, and to just transfer seem like nonsense to me, to be honest.

And what about people who want to raid? They then have to start looking into finding a raiding guild on that server and so forth.

Im not trying to belittle your idea, but it really doesnt have any merit. Some guy on the internet with "lets do this and move here" is not good enough for me to spend 25€ and go trapsing around the server lists.....

TheDoc

witless1 wrote: »

......

What he said

And he gives "boards projects" alot more time then I do...

We opened the doors to boards applicants within our guild, which was very much our reputations on the line and it backfired like the deathstar and we had egg on our faces. So never again

And with realid and cross realm raiding, get a sticky thread organised and maybe organise a once a week raid or something. I wont lie and say I'll have interest but its an option more appealing rather then joining another server, where there is a 100% chance of epic fail and wasted money

fiinch

my internet mates are dickheads already, i don't want to play with random dickheads too.

except you Leigh, you're great!