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''The girl who became three boys''

Medusa22

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184539/The-girl-boys-I-idea-boyfriend-girl.html

I think it was an odd thing to do, to pretend to be a guy and obviously quite upsetting for the girls who believed they had boyfriends. Gemma Barker obviously has some psychological problems, however, I find her sentence to be a bit harsh. Actually, I find it a bit odd that she was sentenced at all. I don't think that it is a crime to pretend to be a man? I wonder where this leaves transsexuals who haven't fully had a sex change and are living their lives as a man or a woman and who may not tell potential partners. So, what do the people of AH think?

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Sonics2k

What was the actual crime?

Gurgle

Medusa22 wrote:

I find her sentence to be a bit harsh. Actually, I find it a bit odd that she was sentenced at all.

The crime is only mentioned in the caption of the photo:

Barker admitted two counts of sexual assault and fraud at Guildford Crown Court

Laika1986

I'm hugely confused ted

Hande hoche!

She seems like a crafty one.

Gummy Panda

Medusa22 wrote: »

I don't think that it is a crime to pretend to be a man? I wonder where this leaves transsexuals who haven't fully had a sex change and are living their lives as a man or a woman and who may not tell potential partners. So, what do the people of AH think?

One of the girls was a minor and there is the issue of consent. I believe it can be considered conditional in law.

There was a male to female transgender on here before saying they wouldn't tell the man until sex IIRC

Medusa22

Is it sexual assault because one girl was 15 or because Barker pretended to be a man? I think it was consensual but maybe the issue of consent is a bit ambiguous because she didn't know who she was really consenting with.

Tombi!

Probably touching their boobs or something. There was a case of it a few years ago with a woman pretending to be a teen boy and did the same and was charged with it.

Scioch

Barker admitted two counts of sexual assault and fraud at Guildford Crown Court

She didnt just pretend to be a man. She deceived someone into thinking she was a man and then performed certain sexual actions on her without her consent as far as I can make out.

Mr.Crinklewood

Laika1986 wrote: »

I'm hugely confused ted

Your confused and are asking a talking teddybear for help.

You're ****ed.

Hande hoche!

Also disappointing lack of photos of her in drag.

Wacker The Attacker

At least shes out of the closet now

mauzo

The comments are gas.

I think she overdosed on blue smarties :P

A Primal Nut

Gummy Panda wrote: »

One of the girls was a minor and there is the issue of consent. I believe it can be considered conditional in law.

There was a male to female transgender on here before saying they wouldn't tell the man until sex IIRC

It's disgraceful and deception of the highest order; basically duping someone into have sex with them. It's right that it's a criminal offence. I would imagine most men would be too embarrassed to come forward if it happened them, though.

Gurgle

BBC Story
Impersonating a male is almost completely irrelevant here, a 20yo using a fake identity pretended to be 16 and had sexual encounters with children.

Scioch

Jorah wrote: »

Hmmmm

Maybe I could try the opposite with Lesbians?

Trick them into thinking your a woman, get them into bed, turn out the lights and say "I'm gonna do ya with this here dildo" then stick the willy in ?

Pretty sure thats rape.

Medusa22

Anybody thinking of boys don't cry?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvolJNljlqY

[Deleted User]

What i'm thinking of is the story about the woman who had a guy arrested because she slept with him thinking he was jewish, then found out later he wasnt
in israel i think it was

annascott

Something like this was covered years ago in the film Boys Don't Cry, based on a girl who called herself Brandon and fooled everyone into thinking she was a boy.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0171804/

I don't see what the crime is, although the deception thing questions their character. It is perfectly acceptable to be a lesbian who chooses to dress as a boy. I don't understand why they don't just do that instead.

cloud493

I did wonder about it myself, when I saw the advert for the program on channel 4 tonight. From the news article/ might have wikipedia, it said she had autism and something else though. Thought she might have been given leniency.

Wacker The Attacker

extra curricular fanny.

she's to be commended for her ingenuity

Gummy Panda

bluewolf wrote: »

What i'm thinking of is the story about the woman who had a guy arrested because she slept with him thinking he was jewish, then found out later he wasnt
in israel i think it was

Yeah there was another as well about a guy lying saying he was wearing a condom and that the woman only would have consented to sex with him if he wore a condom.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Yeah there was another as well about a guy lying saying he was wearing a condom and that the woman only would have consented to sex with him if he wore a condom.

julian assange?

Gummy Panda

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Yeah there was another as well about a guy lying saying he was wearing a condom and that the woman only would have consented to sex with him if he wore a condom.

julian assange?

Actually he did it as well. This guy I vaguely remember passed on a STD to the woman and duped her more then once. STD is what caught him out

Links234

Medusa22 wrote: »

I don't think that it is a crime to pretend to be a man?

I think it's just the way the story is being spun here, and the crime is that she sexually abused underage girls, but that the cross-dressing is what the Daily Mail finds juicy and news-worthy.

Medusa22 wrote: »

I wonder where this leaves transsexuals who haven't fully had a sex change and are living their lives as a man or a woman and who may not tell potential partners. So, what do the people of AH think?

totally different kettle of fish entirely, transgender people are at great risk of physical assault, sexual assault and even murder because of their gender identity, so will tend to keep it to themselves for safety reasons and may only open up about things when they feel safe or comfortable enough to.

Sea Sharp

Arya Stark was it?

Allyall

It's on Channel 4 Tonight..

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-girl-who-became-three-boys

Gummy Panda

Links234 wrote: »

Medusa22 wrote: »

I don't think that it is a crime to pretend to be a man?

I think it's just the way the story is being spun here, and the crime is that she sexually abused underage girls, but that the cross-dressing is what the Daily Mail finds juicy and news-worthy.

Medusa22 wrote: »

I wonder where this leaves transsexuals who haven't fully had a sex change and are living their lives as a man or a woman and who may not tell potential partners. So, what do the people of AH think?

totally different kettle of fish entirely, transgender people are at great risk of physical assault, sexual assault and even murder because of their gender identity, so will tend to keep it to themselves for safety reasons and may only open up about things when they feel safe or comfortable enough to.

Only one of them is a minor though. 16 is the legal age in UK. It could be the use of the dildo without consent

DavyD_83

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Your confused and are asking a talking teddybear for help.

You're ****ed.

Ah, fer fup sake!

TeddyTedson

It's all very bizarre to an average bear like me. The world is a strange place and getting weirder by the day.

dilallio

Sonics2k wrote: »

What was the actual crime?

Rogering a 15 yr old with a pink dildo.