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Do you see yourself living in Ireland permanently

Sappa

As the title goes,do you want to live here all your life,would you like to live overseas and rear your family in another country or is Ireland the bee all and end all,
Looking to move again in the next 2-3 yrs ourselves,like Ireland but I often get bored staying in the same place all the time,
How about yourselves

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O-Deazy

I imagine I'll settle down in Ireland as I think its a great country to grow up in and I'll still have lots of family and friends living here but not before heading off for a few years to see what the world has to offer. Sick of working for crap money, in a country with a high cost of living and I can't help shake the feeling that I'd be wasting my youth by staying here. So as soon as I get the finances together and decide where I want to go I'll find out exactly what shade of green the grass is over this fence!

Micky Dolenz

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

I know you can do those things, and I used to go surfing a lot, but it's things like spending the day in the park lying in the sun and reading or going to the beach or just getting a bit of colour in your face from the sun that I miss.

Horses for courses. Lying out in the sun is akin to torture for me.

Princess Peach

Bad Panda wrote: »

That's a pretty childish reason for such a big decision to be honest.

I'd be more concerned about what kind of life I could give my children rather than if some Irish people perceive them to be muppets for saying they're Irish.

I'm in two minds at the moment.

Ireland is not a good place to raise children I don't think. Everywhere has their problems sure, but Ireland - Dublin especially - is so small that you find trouble within touching distance constantly.

Not some Irish people, I would perceive them muppets! I don't want to be annoyed by my own children. And on other nationalities I don't want my children to have funny accents. Like where I live now in Newfoundland!

I was raised in Ireland and it was pretty great!

Sunnyisland

No, Eventually I shall move back to Portugal.

BraziliaNZ

Princess Peach wrote: »

Not some Irish people, I would perceive them muppets! I don't want to be annoyed by my own children. And on other nationalities I don't want my children to have funny accents. Like where I live now in Newfoundland!

I was raised in Ireland and it was pretty great!

You're in Newfoundland? Why?! It was like a worse version of Ireland from my experience, and it doesn't even get the jet stream!

Princess Peach

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

You're in Newfoundland? Why?! It was like a worse version of Ireland from my experience, and it doesn't even get the jet stream!

I love it! Except for the terrible weather and stupid accents! :pac:

Eve_Dublin

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

I know you can do those things, and I used to go surfing a lot, but it's things like spending the day in the park lying in the sun and reading or going to the beach or just getting a bit of colour in your face from the sun that I miss.

Hot weather is also knackering and a pain in the arse to work in. Drains you completely. I do like it though. Many, many locals hate this time of year and Irish weather to them sounds like heaven.

Edit: i'm going for lunch and some beer outside now! That's the best part of living here...tata!

BraziliaNZ

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Hot weather is also knackering and a pain in the arse to work in. Drains you completely. I do like it though. Many, many locals hate this time of year and Irish weather to them sounds like heaven.

Edit: i'm going for lunch and some beer outside now! That's the best part of living here...tata!

Well only if you work outdoors! Never bothered me in hot countries in offices.

Ditto, going to lie in the sun now

Wacker The Attacker

I like Ireland and will only move as an absolute last resort

BraziliaNZ

Princess Peach wrote: »

I love it! Except for the terrible weather and stupid accents! :pac:

Actually when I was there in summer the weather was beautiful. I stayed near the Avalon (!?!) mall, if you know where that is!

Dravokivich

ehm, yes. I'm staying. Leave that light on for me, thanks.

dd972

Used to live in the Netherlands and if things had gone differently for me over there work and money wise I'd have probably stayed. It's a high taxation economy but you get what you pay for in terms of your living environment, public services and quality of life.

People who go and see Amsterdam don't get the full picture of the country, cities like Den Bosch, Nijmegen or Maastricht are clean, pleasant, efficient and enjoyable to be in, in addition to the fact that you're merely a train ride away from Brussels, Cologne or Berlin.

A lot of the famed Irish friendliness is overrated as well, we may have a loud, brash and superficial hail fellow well met manner, but I actually found people on the continent far easier to connect to and have an in depth conversation with.

Weather here is another minus point, dislike London but even wouldn't mind being over there to get some sun at the minute.

Eve_Dublin

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Well only if you work outdoors! Never bothered me in hot countries in offices.

Ditto, going to lie in the sun now

True...I travel a lot on the Metro and I'm in the heat a fair bit during the day. My situation wouldn't be the average though, that's true.

Sea Filly

Don't know, but put it this way, the thought of living in Ireland permanently doesn't perturb me in any way.

martomcg

Octavia Ashy Suffix wrote: »

While I obviously want to be paid well, for me living it wouldn't be worth it earning 3 times as much and living away from Ireland. I would spend my whole time wishing I was back home and feeling homesick. I'm also very close to my family and would hate not seeing them regularly, I'm a travel home nearly every weekend sort of person.

In any case Ireland is one of the highest paying countrys going.

Highest paid countries going? What kind of statement is that? Our cost of living does nowhere near compensate for the wages here. If you take everything into consideration the results are not good:

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jsp

Your clearly a homebird and that's why earning good money obviously doesn't appeal to you if you've to leave home for it. But 3x my salary for a position here in Ireland that's worth less than I'm on is not something I can ignore.

Would you sooner sit here on the dole than leave knowing you could get a similar position? Just because your family, friends are here?

Princess Peach

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Actually when I was there in summer the weather was beautiful. I stayed near the Avalon (!?!) mall, if you know where that is!

Oh yeah beautiful summer now after a looooong harsh winter. But it hasn't snowed since June 1st

I live right by there!

But I wouldn't live here forever, my housemates accents drive me scatty, I couldn't impose that on my children.

Dave!

seamus wrote: »

I have no desire whatsoever to go live anywhere else. I don't even want to move outside of South Dublin.

If I had no family & no friends living here, then I wouldn't be so inclined to hang on. But as it is I like being within 30 minutes of the people I love. If for nothing more than the simple comfort of being able to go for a few pints in a local pub with friends/family whenever you feel like it.

This!!! This!!! A thousand times this!!!!

ahem, sorry

Yes, these are my thoughts exactly.

Run_to_da_hills

Twenty years ago I had both Australian and US emigration status. Travelled between both country's for almost 4 years. Came back and would have no intention of travelling again, the faraway hills are always greener so they say.

Zeppydiego

My young brother is emigrating to Canada on Sunday, he's a PHD student and is seeking a Post Doc out there.. it's crazy and I know he won't ever settle in Ireland. Me, on the other hand, probably will but myself and my other half do have a view to eventually live out days in a sunny climate... to dream big these days keeps us going because the thoughts of living in Ireland forever is not appealling..

steddyeddy

dark crystal wrote: »

Myself and my partner are currently looking to move over to the UK with the kids in the new year. There are just way more job opportunities for us over there.
We've both been unhappy over here for a while now and the past few governments certainly haven't done anything much to encourage us to stay.

It's scary starting over in our late thirties with a young family, but we can't see any other way at the moment, tbh.

Best of luck with it. Fair play for taking action to be happy again. Lifes to short

Snowie

Im thinking of moving to austria

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bring my computer and my camera and clothes leave everything else, and send for it when I get set up... I don't want to leave but I'm beginning to see the harsh reality that if I want to do the job I want to do...

irelands really not going to cut it...

Helix

can't see myself back in ireland more than a handful of times again in my life. it's a mess of a country, both in terms of governance and the people in it. rampant alcoholism under the guise of socialising, sweet FA to do and still a fierce backwards mentality about most stuff. i couldn't in good conscience let my kids grow up there

laoch na mona

hopefully i won't have to emigrate I like it here

BraziliaNZ

Princess Peach wrote: »

Oh yeah beautiful summer now after a looooong harsh winter. But it hasn't snowed since June 1st I live right by there!

But I wouldn't live here forever, my housemates accents drive me scatty, I couldn't impose that on my children.

It's not that bad an accent! Irish people can hardly talk!

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martomcg wrote: »

Your clearly a homebird and that's why earning good money obviously doesn't appeal to you if you've to leave home for it. But 3x my salary for a position here in Ireland that's worth less than I'm on is not something I can ignore.

Would you sooner sit here on the dole than leave knowing you could get a similar position? Just because your family, friends are here?

I certainly want to earn good money but there is good money to be made here. In my area of work salarys will be as high if not higher (and a lot higher in some cases) than a lot of countries around the world. Your situation is not very common at all I would imagine there are very very few position where you earn twice never mind three times as much for an equivalent job outside Ireland compared to in Ireland.

I wouldn't go on the dole long term but I would do it for a period while looking for a job though as I'd rather hold out for a job here than move away, as I said I have lived away for a year (and it was only London) and it really wasn't for me at all, used every day of holidays I had from my job visiting home. Hopefully however I don't envisage a major problem in getting a job in Ireland so it shouldn't be something that I have to worry about, I am not a person who has an exact job in mind. I will be quite highly qualified when I finish and there are a number of routes for me to go down with regards to employment.

I would add that I like to visit other countries on holidays especially the US and I wouldn't even mind spending a 3 or 6 month period living there (and I may have to for work), but any longer than that is just not something that I would be happy doing.

Helix wrote: »

can't see myself back in ireland more than a handful of times again in my life. it's a mess of a country, both in terms of governance and the people in it. rampant alcoholism under the guise of socialising, sweet FA to do and still a fierce backwards mentality about most stuff. i couldn't in good conscience let my kids grow up there

A lot of bull in that post. For a start the country is not a mess that's tabloid stuff. Socialising is one of the best things about Ireland and I know people who have moved to Ireland and its one of the main reason they want to stay. There is very little you cant do in Ireland that you can other places if you want to and its extremely insulting to the country to call it backwards. Its also probably one of the best places in the world for children to grow up.

In short we are better off without you with an attitude like the above.

Helix

Octavia Ashy Suffix wrote: »

A lot of bull in that post. For a start the country is not a mess that's tabloid stuff. Socialising is one of the best things about Ireland and I know people who have moved to Ireland and its one of the main reason they want to stay. There is very little you cant do in Ireland that you can other places if you want to and its extremely insulting to the country to call it backwards. Its also probably one of the best places in the world for children to grow up.

In short we are better off without you with an attitude like the above.

look, i was born and reared in ireland. i spent 25 of the first 26 years of my life there before jumping ship three years ago before the sh1t really hit the fan. socialising is fine, but the irish mentality isn't about socialising. it's about getting drunk, first and foremost, followed by whatever else as being secondary. the entire social structure of the country revolves around getting drunk. the pub is the first port of call for everything. it's embarrassing, and i genuinely didn't realise how bad it was until i left. i don't want to raise my kids in that

you say that it's tabloid crap that the country is a mess? it's definitely not. the country was a mess long before i left, even during the celtic tiger days. it's corrupt, for all the "friendly" ireland stuff the people there are getting increasingly antisocial, and there's very little opportunity for most people to do anything meaningful with their lives, as it's simply not encouraged. it never has been.

any kind of public amenities or facilities that are constructed are usually magnets for underage drinkers and scumbags to ruin, while companies are simply out to gouge as much money as they possibly can from the public. there's no such thing as a long term project in ireland, it's quick fixes all the way from governance through to industry

ireland is far from a good place for kids to grow up. there's little for them to do. they're witness to chronic alcoholism on an almost daily basis. there's very little drive in irish people to do more than get by. the "fùck it, it'll do" attitude doesn't serve to create winners, it serves to create mediocrity, and it's the reason the government continually gets away with running things into the ground.

if you're happy enough to spend your life there and raise your kids there, well for you. personally, my kids will have a better shot at life than that

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Helix wrote: »

look, i was born and reared in ireland. i spent 25 of the first 26 years of my life there before jumping ship three years ago before the sh1t really hit the fan. socialising is fine, but the irish mentality isn't about socialising. it's about getting drunk, first and foremost, followed by whatever else as being secondary. the entire social structure of the country revolves around getting drunk. the pub is the first port of call for everything. it's embarrassing, and i genuinely didn't realise how bad it was until i left. i don't want to raise my kids in that

The above is one of the things I love about living in Ireland, you can go out and enjoy yourself properly regardless of the event

Helix

Octavia Ashy Suffix wrote: »

The above is one of the things I love about living in Ireland, you can go out and enjoy yourself properly regardless of the event

you know you can do that without getting shìtfaced drunk every time right? it's true. amazingly, that's how they do it in other countries. sometimes they don't even drink at all. crazy huh?

IrishAm

Helix wrote: »

ireland is far from a good place for kids to grow up. there's little for them to do.

You are spouting bollix. I hear this crap all the time by my local "community leaders" when services are cut. Within walking distance from here are; a shopping centre, cinema, six public parks, basketball team, seven soccer teams, a soccer stadium(SRFC), two youth clubs, one of the biggest libraries in the country, two boxing clubs, karate clubs, kickboxing clubs, Irish language groups, homework clubs, athletic clubs, a swimming pool, two GAA clubs, and I am only getting started.

That's quite a lot of child friendly activities on your doorstep.

Helix

IrishAm wrote: »

You are spouting bollix. I hear this crap all the time by my local "community leaders" when services are cut. Within walking distance from here are; a shopping centre, cinema, six public parks, basketball team, seven soccer teams, a soccer stadium(SRFC), two youth clubs, one of the biggest libraries in the country, two boxing clubs, karate clubs, kickboxing clubs, Irish language groups, homework clubs, athletic clubs, a swimming pool, two GAA clubs, and I am only getting started.

That's quite a lot of child friendly activities on your doorstep.

it's mickey mouse stuff compared to the facilities over here. regardless of how much you think kids are offered over there, it's garbage compared to decent countries