Ten people have been shot dead at a Batman film premiere in Denver, Colorado, according to reports.More to follow...
paddyandy wrote: » Voyeurism or relishing the sight of Evil in a Cinema is not an Innocent past time .
Toby Take a Bow wrote: » An Irish Independent article, bascially suggesting that there is a 'curse' on the Nolan Batman films. Stay classy, Irish Independent.
MadsL wrote: » I spent July 4th at the house of a church deacon who recently completed his CCW in order to carry to church for this reason. This is not the only church shooting recently. Not sure how I feel about church deacons getting all Ezekiel 25:17 but he is nice bloke. Might be fun to go to the range with him. He's huge too, probably has some kind of hand cannon on his permit.
Father Damo wrote: » Ok. What about the bit where he throws his kid on the ground, legs it, hops into his car, and drives off? It really is Homer Simpson "dont eat me, I have a wife and kids- eat them!" territory. They look like rednecks anyway.
Run_to_da_hills wrote: » The CT's are coming in. Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged One thing for sure this incident will be ridden by the Obama admin to invoke further fascist EO's, the increased urban roll out of TSA and of course the further attempt to abolish the 2nd amendment. (One must remember similar gun banning moves were hastily drafted in by previous up and coming Communist / fascist regimes so it may be just a case of history repeating itself. Also remember the presidential election is coming up and as with the last election the 2nd amendment was a hot coal.
up for anything wrote: » They have a truckload of bomb experts there and yet a medical student has managed to flummox them. Sounds a little weird to me.
Basq wrote: » Good to see The Indo taking cues from The Daily Mail now! :rolleyes:
MadsL wrote: » Why? Does fewer killings in 2010 counteract the ones in 1999? I see you didn't answer my question.
Mr Pratt told the programme: “It is very sad that there was a no-guns policy in that theatre and that nobody had thought to take a gun with them anyway.
CSU wrote: » Just seen two articles, one talking about how this guy legally bought 6000 rounds of ammo within 60 day's and the other talking of how the head of the American 'Gun Owners Group' Larry Pratt is screaming for looser firearms laws. ...is this really the correct approach to dealing with gun crime, give them more guns? Insane IMO:(
Manic Moran wrote: » They're extremely useful. AR-15-based rifles are the single most popular rifle in the US today, as they do an excellent job of performing any task you would ask of it, from varminting, game hunting, target shooting, or zombie defence. They are light, reliable, ergonomic and capable, which makes sense: They were designed to be better than the rifles which came before them. NTM
Wibbs wrote: » Makes sense MM. Then again people hear "assault rifle" and too often all bets are off in a debate. Back in the day "Saturday Night Special*" was another trigger description. Couple of points on the term, they're semi automatic, not fully like their military versions. You need a special licence for the latter and are allowed only in some states. People hear the term and think "machine gun spraying bullets". Nope. Secondly given a choice between being hit by a military/NATO bullet and a bolt action hunting rifle bullet and I'll take the "assault rifle" bullet any day of the week. The latter are fully jacketed bullets, don't tend to fragment, Geneva convention and all that, whereas something like a hunting round tends to have a soft point that expands rapidly in a body cavity and turns it to mush. A "dum dum" bullet in laymans terms. Yet few would clamour to ban hunting/sport rifles to nearly the same degree. Shotgun? Hideous damage compared to the other two(IIRC specifically banned by Geneva convention though used by various armies) and would be right down at the bottom of the ban list for most. Stick a deer slug(solid bullet in place of lots of small pellets/shot) into a shotgun and you've essentially got a shoulder mounted cannon. Basically if someone wanted to cause the most damage and death in an enclosed space at short ranges in the hands of even an amateur a semi or pump action shotgun with a magazine extension would be the tool for the job. A real "room cleaner". Yet people will scream Assault rifle baaaad. It's one of those "givens" accepted as fact cos it sounds right, but it's anything but. How many shotguns are in this country? Loads yet Ireland has one of the toughest(and oft mad illogical) gun restrictions in the world and we don't see events like what happen in the US. There's an underlying social problem there it seems. The gun is a release for that in the hands of a thankfully tiny percentage of people, it's not the issue itself. I suspect if the US brought in Irish level restrictions in the morning this kinda thing would still happen.*broadly a term for a really cheap handgun, imagined to be smuggled in in thousands specially for crims and scumbags. Very little truth in it.
Duck's hoop wrote: » Excellent. Two of the best posts I've seen on these boards.
Deleted User wrote: » You must be joking. One guy is saying that an assault rifle is perfect for shooting rodents and paper targets, and the other guy is saying that the people in the cinema should consider themselves lucky they were shot with military bullets, he would take those 'any day of the week'.
paddyandy wrote: » .Voyeurism or relishing the sight of Evil in a Cinema is not an Innocent past time .
mikom wrote: » Are you saying everyone in the cinema got what they deserved?
Skadoosh! wrote: » *sits down* ok, go on then..
amacca wrote: » dark knight rises = voyeurism + relishing the sight of evil this should be interesting...................
My name is URL wrote: » Honestly, do you just bash randomly on the keyboard until some vague and meaningless sentence shows up on your screen?
Duggy747 wrote: » Please explain, you seem to have a sheer hatred for the media based on your recent posts on other forums here.
paddyandy wrote: » Evil fun for the masses because it gives them evil thoughts to encourage them to do evil acts .When we can't understand that; then we are truly lost as a society
iguana wrote: » He was a neuroscience student who had graduated with honours and is described as having distinguished himself academically. He had been accepted onto a tough PhD programme. He is clearly an incredibly intelligent man, most likely a natural genius who worked hard at learning. There is nothing even remotely weird about a man with that kind of intelligence and learning being able to rig a complex bomb. He was also from a fairly well off family so there is also nothing even remotely weird about him having quite a bit of money.
Deleted User wrote: » You must be joking. One guy is saying that an assault rifle is perfect for shooting rodents and paper targets,
and the other guy is saying that the people in the cinema should consider themselves lucky they were shot with military bullets, he would take those 'any day of the week'.
Wibbs wrote: » While it's hardly a top flight varmint rifle, but it's a pretty damn good, well made and multipurpose self loading rifle and this explains their popularity among sport shooters. And? Of course this is a major bloody tragedy and questions need to be raised, however the populist and frankly ignorant kneejerk response when the words "assault rifle" come up needs further examination. My point was that banning those which is what will be shouted from rooftops as it always is in the wake of such tragedies isn't the panacea people may think. Yes I would much rather be hit by a 5.56 mm jacketed bullet from such a rifle, than be hit by a hollow point 30.06 from a hunting rifle which won't face such sanctions and defo more than a slug or buckshot from a shotgun which would be the very last type of firearm that would face legislation. BTW the latter two can come as semi autos, just like the civilian AR 15. In enclosed spaces the shotgun would be about the most effective in killing. TBH I'm glad these type of killing spree fcuking retards don't consider this. Look up "Trench gun". Here's something about the effectiveness of such weapons and like I said shotguns are pretty much everywhere in every nation on earth. I'd reckon wolrdwide they're the most common firearm in civilian hands. Wittering on about "assault rifles" is a red herring and that the possible social issues behind the finger on the trigger is a better start to make, though harder to win votes on. That was the point I'm making.
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