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Europrice shut its doors

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Saw this on facebook are staff still down there?

''Staff from Europrice discount store in Michael Street Waterford went to work this morning and the Shop was closed and the locks were changed. They eventually were allowed in by the Receiver and are now sitting in and are refusing to leave as the Employer basically told them to sod off theres no wages and no redundancy for you despite the fact that he is still Managing Director of 2 more Companies. And the crazy thing is the law of this Land allows him to do it. They would appreciate all the support they can get as this is absolutely outrageous that People can be treated like this. Most of the staff have been there 5 years.Would really appreciate if you could SHARE this page with EVERYONE!!!!People should'nt be treated like this,its disgusting.He also had the neck to call the gaurds to have them removed but as its a civil matter the gaurds didnt want anything to do with it.''

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MitchKoobski

I ****ing hate those "SHARE WITH EVERY1" things with a passion.

As far as I know, they have two or more staff inside the place protesting. There's at least one security guard outside waiting for them to leave.
Heard it on WLR this morning, but haven't heard any updates since.

ziedth

I feel for them big time and I wish them all the best but I'd be amazed if they got any satisfaction out of sitting in. The employees in Game did it for a few weeks and AFAIK they didn't get anything.

ex_infantry man

are eurprice running scared about a decent poundshop arriving in waterford soon that sells top brands at discout prices!!! yes i'm talking about dealz

johnnykilo

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Notes in the window from today

merlante

ziedth wrote: »

I feel for them big time and I wish them all the best but I'd be amazed if they got any satisfaction out of sitting in. The employees in Game did it for a few weeks and AFAIK they didn't get anything.

So they shouldn't bother, is that what you're saying?

ziedth

merlante wrote: »

So they shouldn't bother, is that what you're saying?

I didn't say that in point of fact I also didn't say they should:

Burn down the building
Kill the owner
Bake a cake
Watch the Star Wars prequels
Try and date Marisa Tomei
And so on

If you'd like a hand in the future identifying things I have or haven't said don't be afraid to ask k?

I was making an observations on the topic and giving my prediction on the outcome adding to the discussion if you will. Hell I don't think Italy will get anywhere against Spain in the Euro 2012 final but it would be a little silly to suggest what I mean is that they shouldn't bother playing right?

hop2it

their shop in enniscorthy was closed today a sign on the door said CLOSED FOR STOCKTAKE

Cabaal

You have to wounder how in a recession how a euro shop can go out of business when the business should be up as people want bargains, what type of potential mismanagement is going on?

abouttobebanned

Well Cabaal, here's my theory.

We're in a recession, people do want bargains, so a shop like this should do well. The only possible way they could fcuk it up is if they opened 2 doors down from a more eatablished "pound shop".

And eh...

Cabaal

abouttobebanned wrote: »

We're in a recession, people do want bargains, so a shop like this should do well. The only possible way they could fcuk it up is if they opened 2 doors down from a more eatablished "pound shop".

You could very well be right,

Of course not actually seeing the issues regarding a more established shop and also choosing a poor location for the Europrice store comes under bad management in my books

Never thought Europrice was in a good location, somehow that spot always seemed congested to the point where you didn't even see the shop name compared to other premises on the street....perhaps I'm just imagining things.

merlante

ziedth wrote: »

I didn't say that in point of fact I also didn't say they should:

Burn down the building
Kill the owner
Bake a cake
Watch the Star Wars prequels
Try and date Marisa Tomei
And so on

If you'd like a hand in the future identifying things I have or haven't said don't be afraid to ask k?

I was making an observations on the topic and giving my prediction on the outcome adding to the discussion if you will. Hell I don't think Italy will get anywhere against Spain in the Euro 2012 final but it would be a little silly to suggest what I mean is that they shouldn't bother playing right?

My mistake, just trying to figure out what the point of your post was. Maybe there was no point and I was looking for a level of depth that just wasn't there.

membersonly

ziedth wrote: »

I didn't say that in point of fact I also didn't say they should:

Burn down the building
Kill the owner
Bake a cake
Watch the Star Wars prequels
Try and date Marisa Tomei
And so on

If you'd like a hand in the future identifying things I have or haven't said don't be afraid to ask k?

I was making an observations on the topic and giving my prediction on the outcome adding to the discussion if you will. Hell I don't think Italy will get anywhere against Spain in the Euro 2012 final but it would be a little silly to suggest what I mean is that they shouldn't bother playing right?

Wow, quite an outburst! :eek:

ziedth

merlante wrote: »

My mistake, just trying to figure out what the point of your post was. Maybe there was no point and I was looking for a level of depth that just wasn't there.

Well let's evaluate shall we? I'll not only give the main point I'll break it down for you:

ziedth wrote: »

I feel for them big time and I wish them all the best but I'd be amazed if they got any satisfaction out of sitting in. The employees in Game did it for a few weeks and AFAIK they didn't get anything.

1. I express my sympathy for their situation
2. I send my well wishes
3. I give my opinion on what I think the outcome will be.
4. I give my reasoning behind point (3) with an example of a similar situation.

Thats about the level of depth i was aiming for. It's about all I ever aim for being honest.

BTW suggesting that someone's post is beneath you is not only gloriously condescensing but it doesnt read much better then writing "I know you are but what am I"

Hoffmans

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Well Cabaal, here's my theory.

We're in a recession, people do want bargains, so a shop like this should do well. The only possible way they could fcuk it up is if they opened 2 doors down from a more eatablished "pound shop".

And eh...

well from my reading of the op it seems its the owner not the shop that was in trouble, and he decided to close this business,and hold on to the other two...

the exact carry on that happened with vita cortex on a smaller scale
..

best of look to the workers that are fighting for their wages
...

ziedth

Hoffmans wrote: »

well from my reading of the op it seems its the owner not the shop that was in trouble, and he decided to close this business,and hold on to the other two...

the exact carry on that happened with vita cortex on a smaller scale
..

best of look to the workers that are fighting for their wages
...

I wonder How open having the other two businesses leave him. I have no idea if a business goes under is the owners personal wealth (which essentially these other two businesses are) still in the mix. I hope they get sorted, not even getting your wages let alone redundancy must be infuriating.

danjo-xx

Is this the busy pound shop or the quieter one two doors down.

decies

danjo-xx wrote: »

Is this the busy pound shop or the quieter one two doors down.

The quieter newer one .

ziedth

The one further down towards red square. Used to be Kavanaghs electrical back in the day.

cocoshovel

Well if they're gone bust and cant afford to pay out their wages then why protest? I mean, how many weeks of wages have they missed out on?
I never understood this close down everything, change the locks and not tell any of the staff business.

CantGetNoSleep

@ Ziedth - It depends, usually a business is rarely owned by an owner but a limited company with two shareholders, so because of the limited liability the business is gone but very little else.

This is the reason that cnuts like Mick Wallace (and a few hundred others) can owe €40m and be swanning about in Poznan like a paycock while if you owe €50,000 on your house the bank will be banging down the door before long.

The personal guarantees given by our spasticated bankers further complicates things however

daenerysstormborn3

I don't understand how a business can deny their employees their statutory rights, surely the government could and should step in.

wmpdd3

cocoshovel wrote: »

Well if they're gone bust and cant afford to pay out their wages then why protest? I mean, how many weeks of wages have they missed out on?
I never understood this close down everything, change the locks and not tell any of the staff business.

For 6 years service an employee is entitled to €7900, by how many working there? 6? so that's €48,000.

Add 2 weeks wages per person for holidays and you have another few grand.

https://www.welfare.ie/EN/Secure/Pages/RedundancyCalculator.aspx

Employers are obliged to follow certain procedures when an employee becomes redundant. Redundancy occurs where you lose your job due to circumstances such as the closure of the business or a reduction in the number of staff. The Redundancy Payments Acts 1967-2007 provide a minimum entitlement to a redundancy payment for employees who have a set period of service with the employer. Not all employees are entitled to this statutory redundancy payment, even where a redundancy situation exists. You can read our document on qualifying for redundancy.

Employer rebate reduction: The employer rebate of statutory redundancy payments made to employees on or after 1 January 2012 is 15% (was 60%).

The reason they change the locks and dont let staff in is because of sit-ins! And also so staff won't steal stock etc. So I was told when i was escorted out one shop by security hired by the liquidators.

So it sounds like the owner split the company and left this store with no assets and no way of paying the redundancy.

I for one would have sat in too.

merlante

ziedth wrote: »

Well let's evaluate shall we? I'll not only give the main point I'll break it down for you:

1. I express my sympathy for their situation
2. I send my well wishes
3. I give my opinion on what I think the outcome will be.
4. I give my reasoning behind point (3) with an example of a similar situation.

Thats about the level of depth i was aiming for. It's about all I ever aim for being honest.

BTW suggesting that someone's post is beneath you is not only gloriously condescensing but it doesnt read much better then writing "I know you are but what am I"

ziedth wrote: »

I feel for them big time and I wish them all the best but I'd be amazed if they got any satisfaction out of sitting in.

Maybe that's what you intended, but to me it read more like,
1. Express your sympathy.
2. Send them your best wishes.
3. Immediately undermine these sentiments with a 'but' that implies that your good will towards them is limited because they are embarking on a course of action that you believe is unlikely to be successful. There's half an implication in there that because they are unlikely to get any joy that either a) they shouldn't bother protesting and/or b) we shouldn't feel the need to get too worked up about their difficulties.

Since this miserable, craven kind of reasoning was obviously not what you intended -- hence the righteous indignation and grievious offence taken -- let's just put it down to grammar, shall we? As a suggestion for the future, you might express your best wishes and your doubts about given actions in two separate sentences, not separated by a 'but', in order to avoid confusion!

tobey

walked past em friday, looing a bit deserate tbh, i would of cut my losses and left when it closed down and tryed get a job faster then the other three

lassykk

merlante wrote: »

ziedth wrote: »

Well let's evaluate shall we? I'll not only give the main point I'll break it down for you:

1. I express my sympathy for their situation
2. I send my well wishes
3. I give my opinion on what I think the outcome will be.
4. I give my reasoning behind point (3) with an example of a similar situation.

Thats about the level of depth i was aiming for. It's about all I ever aim for being honest.

BTW suggesting that someone's post is beneath you is not only gloriously condescensing but it doesnt read much better then writing "I know you are but what am I"

ziedth wrote: »

I feel for them big time and I wish them all the best but I'd be amazed if they got any satisfaction out of sitting in.

Maybe that's what you intended, but to me it read more like,
1. Express your sympathy.
2. Send them your best wishes.
3. Immediately undermine these sentiments with a 'but' that implies that your good will towards them is limited because they are embarking on a course of action that you believe is unlikely to be successful. There's half an implication in there that because they are unlikely to get any joy that either a) they shouldn't bother protesting and/or b) we shouldn't feel the need to get too worked up about their difficulties.

Since this miserable, craven kind of reasoning was obviously not what you intended -- hence the righteous indignation and grievious offence taken -- let's just put it down to grammar, shall we? As a suggestion for the future, you might express your best wishes and your doubts about given actions in two separate sentences, not separated by a 'but', in order to avoid confusion!

By Christ you're pedantic

WexfordWarrior

The Eurprice shop in Wexford was the same as enniscorthys when i walked by it today. shop closed for stocktake...

crazy world now...everywhere is ruined... bertie ahearn has alot to answer for the dirty creep.

kryogen

Bertie is hardly responsible for all your problems.

membersonly

lassykk wrote: »

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You really should have used a comma between the words 'Christ' and 'pedantic' there.

cahill2012

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Saoirsia

tobey wrote: »

walked past em friday, looing a bit deserate tbh, i would of cut my losses and left when it closed down and tryed get a job faster then the other three

I feel i must reply to this message and your comments. I am currently in this store with the other employees.
For obvious reasons we would, as you say, be looking a bit desperate if not deflated, disappointed,disgusted, depressed with the way we have been treated by our employer after a total of 16 years service between all of us here.

These reasons are:
We were locked out of our workplace when we turned up for work.
We have no wages for hours already worked
We have no Redundancy
We have no Holiday pay for holiday entitlements due
We have no overtime pay for overtime entitlements due
We had received no statutory Notice that this was going to happen which should have been 2 weeks therefore we should be paid for this but again
we will also not receive this so yes we may be a bit desperate looking but we will remain here until we receive whats rightfully ours.

After years of service and loyalty We receive nothing.

The support we have received from the general public has been fantastic and far outweighs the negative

The owner of this company is currently trading 2 other businesses. If as you say we were to "cut our losses and left when the store closed down" this will continue to happen and it probably be some other employees next week. It needs to be highlighted, these people need to be named and shamed and we will stay here until we get whats rightfully ours.