Big Steve wrote: » I wouldn't go that far. But they smoke a good bit daily.But anyway my question is: Will he pass or fail the drugs test as a result of all of this?
tayto lover wrote: » Children have been taken from their parents for Alcohol related reasons too.
DERPY HOOFS wrote: » Ever see the damage legal alcohol causes in familys :pac:
PucaMama wrote: » this has already happened. then he was given the chance to get rid of his connections to the drug so his children could come home but he hasnt done this so he shouldnt get them back. simple. fags and drink are legal. cannibis is not. simple also. that is what got him in trouble. im not here to argue about legaliseing drugs.
Odysseus wrote: » I can, if I know about the situation, where the test will be carried out. I can't be 100% sure but I give a very educated guess.
Odysseus wrote: » My point being they will go on about it here, but it maybe even be happening in their own family and they won't pick up the phone.
PucaMama wrote: » because we cant tell the future? honestly, noone can tell for sure unless you get the test from the chemist.
Odysseus wrote: » At leat let the OP get an answer to his question first, poor ****er couldn't even get that.
tayto lover wrote: » So do I actually. I still don't get your point though. Is this not a discussion board ?
brosy wrote: » Once again, the crux of the matter raises it's ugly head. You have made your opinion quite clear here. No ethics or morality allowed. It is only because he broke a law that his children should be removed from his life. One would wonder if this should work with all laws. Perhaps going 51kph in a 50kph zone? By your 'reasoning' then yes, I would assume. Well, you can't blame a guy for trying. I bid you adieu. I must go now and live my life. I sincerely hope that one day, all people will live and let live, and rejoice in the tapestry of variety that we as a species enjoy. Not today, quite clearly, but one day, we will not all be so callous as to look down on those whose life choices do not fit into our own blinkered frame of mind. I genuinely hope that you do one day come to your senses and question the status quo from time to time. If only for the sake of your mind.
PucaMama wrote: » fags and drink are legal. cannibis is not. simple also. that is what got him in trouble. im not here to argue about legaliseing drugs.
Odysseus wrote: » That is their remit, I report to them often enough.
brosy wrote: » I just find it very strange and sad that you would be so callous as to want somebody's children wrenched from their home and their lives, destroying an entire family and ensuring repercussions for the next generation, all because you do not agree with the parents being in the company of a substance whose effects are proven time after time to be more benign and less harmful than any of the legal substances/practices that I have mentioned, all for the sole reason because it is illegal. I cannot comprehend how you don't see this. Should every child whose parents smoke fags be removed from their lives? Should every child whose parents drink be removed from their lives? etc. I simply cannot understand why you refuse to accept the glaring double standards and hypocrisy here. It is clearly not about the child's safety, as everything I have mentioned is scientifically proven and accepted as being far more dangerous.
ScumLord wrote: » even if the kids found the weed and eat it nothing would happen you can't get high from eating unprepared weed.
PucaMama wrote: » i am getting fed up with your insults about my intelligence. i form my opinion on the drug because it can and will affect a persons health. that is logical. you have now dragged gay people into this. as if food/religion/tv wasnt enough. you obviously arent going to answer me without trying to insult me.
flutterflye wrote: » I've reported people to social services in a personal and professional capacity too. What is your point? This is after hours - you know what people are like here!
brosy wrote: » You asked what was wrong with the current drug laws we have and I explained in the most obvious manner possible. I find it quite telling but mainly quite sad that you admit you will not change your mind and will most likely keep your close minded and uneducated views throughout your life. It is people like you who keep this country from reaching it's true potential, where others are not classed as criminals simply because we don't agree with their life choices. How truly vindictive some people are, it's pretty depressing. I cannot fathom how someone can genuinely go through their lives and not question the status quo simply because the term ''it is illegal'' is enough to satisfy their feeble, unquestioning minds. If everyone was like you then homosexuality would still be a crime because up to the 1990s ''it was illegal''. I sincerely hope that one day the majority of those who occupy this country will have the ability to form opinions by the logical processes they possess through their cognitive faculties. I want to have faith in the Darwinian trail of thought that the numbers of those such as yourself will gradually diminish over time, leaving only those of us who use reason and logic and not primitive emotion. I sincerely hope that one day you will possess a mind of your own. Best of luck.
Odysseus wrote: » May for you it is, to many people reading too much into the question and avoiding it. Anyway OP has pM me hopeful he can get the info he needs, as well as the other who just wanted simply question answers. I could be never had and never will tell someone how to chat a test, and I regularily report children at risk to SS. How much of the poster here will do that. As a private citizien they can, I have do it a both
PucaMama wrote: » i never said the child will DIE from it! where did you pull that one from? and yes, i have a mind of my own one you will not change
tayto lover wrote: » You don't know that. Stranger things have happened.
Micky Dolenz wrote: » It is perfectly on topic. It is part of the story. This isn't an ask a question get an answer forum . It's part of the information the poster supplied so fair game for comment.
Micky Dolenz wrote: » That's crazy talk. I'm all up for recreational drug use and drinking, if it floats your boat. It's when it starts to affect the people around you in a negative way, thats a problem. The OP's mate should be looking to address this problem instead of cheating on a drug test. After all it's only himslef and the people he supposedly loves that are being cheated.
Odysseus wrote: » If he refuses to do as SS require it doesn't matter whether he listens to them; they will act in the best interest of the kids. Poster here will have no influence on his behaviour
Odysseus wrote: » An OT one?
brosy wrote: » My good God woman, have you no mind of your own? Are you to tell me that the current laws are we have regarding substances make any sense whatsoever? Do you know how many people die every year in this country from alcohol? Do you know how many people die every year in this country from tobacco? Do you know how many people die every year in this country from obesity? Do you know how many people die every year in this country from road deaths? NOW Do you know how many people have EVER died in RECORDED HISTORY from cannabis? For someone as blatantly uneducated on the subject as yourself, this is the easiest and most reasonable argument I can put forward. I don't have the time to get into the countless other reasons why these laws are completely outdated and irrational.
tayto lover wrote: » Do you think he's listening to Social Services if the situation still exists? I don't and maybe the OP might try and advise the man that he is better off kicking his friends out if he's too stupid not to realize that himself. Having Garda raids and your children taken into care is not good for anyone. We are only trying to advise here so get off your horse.
Pace2008 wrote: » It would be a serious and pressing concern if they were smoking mustard gas . But they're not, they're smoking weed, which is not a toxic substance to begin with, and will diffuse to the point of harmlessness long before it gets near the children, if it gets near them at all.
PucaMama wrote: » if they were legal he wouldnt be going to court and he would still have the children. can you enlighten me as to whats wrong with following drug laws?
