Smiley Burnett wrote: » Read the gleeson report. All the details are there. Cullen and leech sued rte/newspapers and won because of lies which were printed about them (and rightly so!!). There is only aspect of it the entire episode that I am critical of --the massive waste of taxpayers money hiring a PR consultant whilst we already had civil servants paid to do the same job!!!!
Darkest Horse wrote: » rasper wrote: » imagine a 120k pension and he's 58 , by the time they finished with us they won't be a state pension till you re 75 ActuAlly funny thAt we r so placid Would YOU turn down that pension in his position? I suppose you would, kind soul that you are. It's not Cullen's worry or concern that Rasper has a MORAL issue with what he is LEGALLY entitled too under the governmental policy of the time. It's just sheer jealousy and begrudgery. Regarding a retirement age of 75? It's about time. Those of the human race who aren't on a fastrack to obesity are living much longer and are far more physically and mentally capable at 65+ than ever. This was always going to happen and so it should.
rasper wrote: » imagine a 120k pension and he's 58 , by the time they finished with us they won't be a state pension till you re 75 ActuAlly funny thAt we r so placid
Dan133269 wrote: » That's the biggest crock of shite I've read in a long time. The man is a disgrace, wasted 52 MILLION euro on electronic voting, then turned around and referred to it as "small change".
rasper wrote: » Wow jealOusy and begrudgery is the accusation now if you object to the tax payer being raped, what a country. The dogs on the street know that if the law of the land was applied , half the dail should be serving time , but yeah it's begrudgery
alinton wrote: » The 52 million cost of the machines was only part of that whole sorry affair. There's also the 'connections' that those awarded contracts to store the machines had. Bent as a nine bob note. He typifies the smug, corrupt, self-serving types that got this country into the mess its in, then effed off to live off the proceeds without any chance of ever being held to account for their dodgy dealings. A.
Darkest Horse wrote: » rasper wrote: » Wow jealOusy and begrudgery is the accusation now if you object to the tax payer being raped, what a country. The dogs on the street know that if the law of the land was applied , half the dail should be serving time , but yeah it's begrudgery You still didn't answer my question. For the avoidance of doubt: Would you yourself turn down that pension? No matter your answer, I think not.
rasper wrote: » I don't understand your retort , what has that situation got to do with anything Is that how we judge right from wrong , Yes if I made the rules well the I think I'm worth 10k a month after fecking up the country in a few short years , bankrupt the state. Enslave generations into emigration and sovereign debt while I live the life of desposed leader of some joke of a banana republic
Max Powers wrote: » The people complaining about Martin Cullen on here need to cop on a small bit. Cullen was good for Waterford (M9, WIT, Bridge etc), he performed reasonably well on national stage too (Plastic bag tax, rolling out massive transport investment) even if the media liked what seemed like picking on him. He retired due to ill-health and went abroad to get treatment for it, when he got away, he probably liked the lack of begrudgery and stayed. He was unfairly labelled the voting machines fiasco person even though they were brought in by his precessor (dempsey i think). When they were exposed as unsuitable, a govt/cabinet decsion was taken to keep them. Admittedly, this should have been handled better and they should have been scrapped but have you ever seen a govt to back down and admit they were wrong quickly, No! Cullen was never involved in any planning irregulaties like so many other reps, never implicated in any expenses exposure, never brought disgrace to high office, never blatently horse-traded in the style of Lowry, Jackie H. Rae to the detriment of the rest of the country. People are more than willing to post their complaints on here, yet they do F-all about it (on a previous thread I asked people if they have contacted anyone in relation to getting something pro-active done...no responses.) If you want to attack a retired politician, there are plenty involved in corruption that you could be writing to the Taoiseach/TDs/EU about - Padraig Flynn corruption and expenses on an EU wide level - Lowry... corrupt - Ahern..corrupt - Calleely..expenses - Healy rae...politicians and TDs at their near worst - Excessive pensions for all - Widespread incompetence
kittymiss wrote: » so how is a toll bridge good for anyone ? but the dutch owners who rake in massive subsidies from the state coffers for its under use, plastic bag stealth tax another beauty from the green party, what about plastic bottles tax if they were so worried about plastic waste, mabey time to open the oul eyes.....
4MWD wrote: » Martin Cullen's greatest legacy to us is the M9 motorway which would not be there without him having being a Government minister at the time. For that reason alone he deserves the gratitude of Waterfordians, as for many, many years to come it will be a huge benefit to the whole region. I personally thought I'd never see a proper road between Dublin and Waterford in my lifetime and after years of hating driving on what was really just a big dirt track I now love the journey. What other TD ever got so much for the Deise? Austin Deasy, with Ardkeen Hospital, is the only other person I know of who EVER delivered anything much for Waterford.
kittymiss wrote: » so how is a toll bridge good for anyone ?
banjacksed wrote: » Only saw him here a few weeks ago, must of jetted in to town for a couple of days
banjacksed wrote: » must be trying to blend in with his local people.
comeraghs wrote: » Why were there no stories about Garret Fitzgerald & his big pension?
comeraghs wrote: » The Dublin media really have it in for Cullen. Why is it that they seem to try & get at him so often? God forbid that anybody from Waterford stands up for their city & county. Why were there no stories about Garret Fitzgerald & his big pension? The D4 / UCD bias in the media in this country is rediculous.
castor 1 wrote: » Because Garret was a Statesman, highly intelligent, good with people, wasn't arrogant and worked hard for the country even after leaving office.
Black Suir wrote: » He may be highly intelligent in his lifetime but what about all that happened while he was Taoiseach. Hospitals closed right across the country, including Waterford, large places of employment closed, 3 day weeks in some places.
Smiley Burnett wrote: » What are you raving about?? Garret was taoiseach when Waterford regional hospital was rebuilt and transformed that part of the city!!!!
calvin_zola wrote: » we've had no representation since he left and now are just living on the hope of a few scraps of howlin and big phil who are representing the south east but looking after Kilkenny and Wexford