Patchy~ wrote: » Ughhhhhhhhh I have to go to mass now. 30 minutes of possible study time wasted each week really builds up. :mad: It is the worst half hour of my week, oh god, I cant wait til I can stop going when I move to France for my third or fourth year in college. :rolleyes:
cloud493 wrote: » To whoever it was who was thinking of repeating, don't. I just did it this year, biggest waste of time and money imaginable.
Togepi wrote: » Yeah it costs about €780 without paying for any books you might need, or any grinds if you need those. Plus that figure is bound to increase a little this year.
Raeone wrote: » Why do you have to pay 780?
Togepi wrote: » Yeah it costs about €540 without paying for any books you might need, or any grinds if you need those. Plus that figure is bound to increase a little this year. I hated that. All of my family had to go until they finished school, I just slowly wormed my way out of it about a year ago and now I only go at Christmas and for anniversaries. It was such a waste of time - ended up being an hour a week for me because mass would be long and then travelling there and back. I hate it when parents force their kids to go when they don't believe in the religion. :mad: I just don't get why anyone would do that! Really regret having my communion and confirmation now, wasn't even going to make my confirmation at the time (I was a rebellious little eleven year old!) but that would have been so rare that everyone probably would've thought I was possessed or something. :rolleyes: Regret my baptism too, but there wasn't much I could do about that. :P I don't get why people make other people a certain religion before they can even talk though. :cool: ^^^ And THAT is why I spent most of third year arguing with my religion teacher about baptising people as babies, when I probably should have been studying for the exam. :P Good times.
finality wrote: » There was a while when it really bothered me that I was baptised, but at the end of the day it only has meaning if you give it meaning. Like it's just having water poured over your head really, I know it's symbolic within the Catholic church but if you don't accept that symbolism then it doesn't have to mean anything. I really disagree with the Catholic primary schools though, being indoctrinated in a religion should not be part of a child's education. But then, who'd be Catholic if they weren't taught to be? :rolleyes:
Togepi wrote: » Yeah it costs about €540 without paying for any books you might need, or any grinds if you need those. Plus that figure is bound to increase a little this year.
Martin_94 wrote: » Why do you have to go.
Togepi wrote: » I hated that. All of my family had to go until they finished school, I just slowly wormed my way out of it about a year ago and now I only go at Christmas and for anniversaries. It was such a waste of time - ended up being an hour a week for me because mass would be long and then travelling there and back. I hate it when parents force their kids to go when they don't believe in the religion. :mad: I just don't get why anyone would do that! Really regret having my communion and confirmation now, wasn't even going to make my confirmation at the time (I was a rebellious little eleven year old!) but that would have been so rare that everyone probably would've thought I was possessed or something. :rolleyes: Regret my baptism too, but there wasn't much I could do about that. :P I don't get why people make other people a certain religion before they can even talk though. :cool: ^^^ And THAT is why I spent most of third year arguing with my religion teacher about baptising people as babies, when I probably should have been studying for the exam. :P Good times.
finality wrote: » I live riiiight across from a church, I can see it out my window, and yet I haven't been inside it in over two years. :L Used to go every Sunday when I was a kid, urghhh always hated it. Luckily my mom doesn't really care anymore, I don't think she even went at christmas herself this year. If she still tried to make me go now she wouldn't get far, that's for sure. There was a while when it really bothered me that I was baptised, but at the end of the day it only has meaning if you give it meaning. Like it's just having water poured over your head really, I know it's symbolic within the Catholic church but if you don't accept that symbolism then it doesn't have to mean anything. I really disagree with the Catholic primary schools though, being indoctrinated in a religion should not be part of a child's education. But then, who'd be Catholic if they weren't taught to be? :rolleyes:
Patchy~ wrote: » but I absolutely hate going to take part in what I look at as a backward, hateful organisation who would sooner let two atheists marry than two same-gendered Catholics. It's so disgusting and of course its boring as sh*t too.
Dwellingdweller wrote: » Haha, I'm loving this convo about religion. My mum's parents would be one of the old-fashioned fanatically Catholic families, but my mum's the opposite. She's never forced me to go to mass or anything, but she made me and my siblings go to mass for a few sundays before we had our confirmation or communion, so that's grand like. I thought I was atheist when I was like 10 but now it's more like, I believe there is a spiritual force but idk what it is. Basically agnostic. The rites and rituals of the Catholic church are fúcking despicable tho, pure pyschological brainwashing. Like being confirmed - kneel down on the ground in front of the bishop, who's sitting in a big chair smiling pervertedly, while a close relative exposes your forehead to be touched. I know it's not taboo or anything to have your forehead touched but the psychological idea of it is pretty obvious. It's hard to explain, but in terms of body language it's just a total act of submission. Sickens me hey. When my wee bro was getting confirmed there last week I kept on telling him all day he was going to see the witch doctor (the bishop :P), and my school is really religious too, there's pics of John Paul II everywhere and crosses all over the shop, pure joke really :pac: Everyone has to go to mass in our school when it's on but I don't mind, I think it's funny/pathetic that people take the idea of some imaginary bearded guy in the sky so seriously though. :rolleyes:
JonnyMcNamee wrote: » Ya should really be open minded about these things. I know people have a right to their opinion and all like but you shouldn't openly insult their by calling it 'funny/pathetic'. God and whatever other 'higher power' people believe in has helped alot of people out of dark places. I don't mean literally because I'm that firm of a believer but faith is very important in some people's lives! Myself? I'm much like you.. thought I was an Atheist for a long time but now I do believe in something else just not sure what it is ! Anyways, sorry for the rant, just thought I should throw my two cents into mix! And DD, please don't take any of this personally :pac:
Chuchoter wrote: » Does anyone want to explain to me how structural isomers work? Is it as easy to just learn them off by heart? Hydrocarbons are grand, but then theres the alchohols and ketones :S
Martin_94 wrote: » JonnyMcNamee wrote: » Ya should really be open minded about these things. I know people have a right to their opinion and all like but you shouldn't openly insult their by calling it 'funny/pathetic'. God and whatever other 'higher power' people believe in has helped alot of people out of dark places. I don't mean literally because I'm that firm of a believer but faith is very important in some people's lives! Myself? I'm much like you.. thought I was an Atheist for a long time but now I do believe in something else just not sure what it is ! Anyways, sorry for the rant, just thought I should throw my two cents into mix! And DD, please don't take any of this personally :pac: To be fair the Catholic Church is "Pathetic". I'm an athiest with nothing against people having a belief in a "God" but organised religon and in particular the Catholic Church just sicken me.
Patchy~ wrote: » One thing that really irks me purely for the ignorance (again not a personal thing at anyone!) is the general atheist idea of "hawhawhaw bearded guy in the sky", when no one describes any kind of God that way. Some people believe in spirits, no one says "hawhaw ghosts haunted houses", its the same idea. I dont really think much about how I'd imagine a God but clearly he's not sitting up there in the atmosphere and if he isnt human he'd hardly have a beard. :rolleyes:
leaveiton wrote: » Not really sure what you're asking, do you mean like when they ask in the exam "Draw one/two isomer(s) of X?"
JonnyMcNamee wrote: » Completely agree that the Church is pathetic, all it is nowadays is full of scandals and brown envelopes. I was just saying it's wrong to say someones faith is 'pathetic' whether they're Catholic, Muslim or whatever!
Patchy~ wrote: » the general atheist idea of "hawhawhaw bearded guy in the sky", when no one describes any kind of God that way. Some people believe in spirits, no one says "hawhaw ghosts haunted houses", its the same idea. :rolleyes:
Chuchoter wrote: » Those guys!
JonnyMcNamee wrote: » Ya should really be open minded about these things. I know people have a right to their opinion and all like but you shouldn't openly insult people's faith by calling it 'funny/pathetic'. God and whatever other 'higher power' people believe in has helped alot of people out of dark places. I don't mean literally because I'm that firm of a believer but faith is very important in some people's lives! Myself? I'm much like you.. thought I was an Atheist for a long time but now I do believe in something else just not sure what it is ! Anyways, sorry for the rant, just thought I should throw my two cents into mix! And DD, please don't take any of this personally :pac: Complwtely agree that the Church is an absolute farce too but I still go because, I dunno... It's a pretty relaxing place to be imho
