Aldi in Trim

greendom wrote: »

It was accepted but this is being appealed!

Yep. Council granted permission having considered the application, objections and any other inputs.

Once permission is granted, there is a window to appeal to An Board Pleanala which was taken.

greendom

chewed wrote: »

I didn't know it was rejected!

It was accepted but this is being appealed!

I didn't know it was rejected!

Looks like the decision has been appealed to An Board Pleanala.

Edit:
http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/245996.htm

Now due to be decided in May.

Was viewing the scanned documents alright but hadn't spotted the Schedule of Conditions.

I loved the Tesco one. I'm sure they were very concerned about maintaining the integrity of the streetscape :rolleyes:

Actually you can see all docs related to the application here (incl. the 21 conditions):
http://www.eplanning.ie/MeathCC/AppFileRefDetails/TA150598/0

Click on "View Scanned Files" - there's a pile of stuff there related to the application (including a note to Tesco who obviously were involved at some point). The 21 conditions doc is called "Schedule of Conditions" towards the bottom of the list. Looks all fairly standard stuff, although I must say I've never heard of "Japanese knotweed"!!

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

Very good. I wonder what the 21 conditions are.

Yeah, don't know, but I'd assume they are obliged to do works on the paths and roads etc. around the property. It'll definitely smarten up that corner which looks a bit of a mess at the moment. Glad something is going there, especially an Aldi.

Wonder will that absolute joke of a council "car park" be surfaced as part of this? The cheek of the council to charge for parking there, the surface of the moon would be better.

Very good. I wonder what the 21 conditions are.

Permission granted today apparently. Happy about that, shame it takes an eternity to do anything in this country.

kevohmsford

I will be very happy to see Aldi in Trim.
Should be plenty of parking at the site of the old swimming pool.

Looks like Aldi is going ahead afterall:
http://www.meathchronicle.ie/news/roundup/articles/2014/04/11/4029540-aldi-store-on-way-to-trim/

Thumbs up from me. Both Lidl and especially Supervalu are very busy these days, a third store is definitely needed in Trim.

benking

vinn wrote: »

rumour has it that the swimming pool site has been agreed upon with tesco

I have heard this too, but its now nearly December and still no confirmation.. The site seems to be still listed on daft&lisney?

Also Me and my family and extended family ALL shop in Navan.. every thrusday or friday they head over to Tesco and Aldi. We only ever use Supervalue for small shops as its a nightmare to shop and park in.

Archeron

I'm no big fan of Tesco either, but I'd be happy to have an option other than Supervalu who seem to rip me off every single time I go there, and Lidl, which I honestly believe is the single worst store in Ireland.

(Not Lidl generally, just the one in Trim, I go to Lidl in Clonee or Navan instead of using Trims one.)

bladespin

chewed wrote: »

Not another bloody Tesco! Taking over the country and the world! Can't stand that supermarket....screwing farmers and growers into the ground.

Really, I'd have thought they would be delighted with the outlet, sure they don't have to sell to them if they don't want to.

vinn

it is not officially announced yet still under the table backhander and brown envelope stage yet
but im sure it will be put out to the usual media fanfare pretty soon

Not another bloody Tesco! Taking over the country and the world! Can't stand that supermarket....screwing farmers and growers into the ground.

vinn wrote: »

rumour has it that the swimming pool site has been agreed upon with tesco

Heard that myself. Did you hear any timescales as to when? Trim needs another supermarket, it's certainly big enough, and a trip to the monopoly that is Supervalu just proves that.

vinn

PauloMN wrote: »

Permission refused. :mad:

Nice one, that'll keep people shopping in Trim........... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

rumour has it that the swimming pool site has been agreed upon with tesco

Permission refused. :mad:

Nice one, that'll keep people shopping in Trim........... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

falabo

any word on this saga ?

falabo

any word on this saga ?

Point is though, if I wasn't already in Navan or elsewhere for Aldi, I'd happily get my other bits and pieces in Trim.

The parking is a problem though. Used to be free on Saturdays from 12pm onwards. I rarely shop in Trim now on a Saturday because of the parking. I think it was a huge mistake to charge for Saturday parking again.

PauloMN wrote: »

Keeping people in Trim rather than going to Navan? Say if I need something in a hardware shop but we've to go to Navan to get to Aldi for groceries. I'll get whatever I want to get in Woodies or somewhere in Navan rather than making another trip out and going to Leonards in Trim for example. Happens all the time with us, I'll take the kids and nip up to Woodies or Homebase to get something I need while my wife gets the groceries in Aldi. I could get everything I need to get locally in Trim though.

Aldi would have to be on the outskirts purely for parking. The proposed site is the site between the Longwood and Summerhill Roads. Surely it's better to keep local Trim shoppers in and around Trim, rather than pushing them out to Navan etc.?

And that's aside from the jobs an Aldi would bring.

I totally agree that it would be beneficial to Trim for employment, but I'm still not sure it's going to benefit the town financially. As you already mentioned, most people with hardware requirements end going to Woodie's or Homebase (mainly because of ease of parking). I often go to Lidl in Trim and Aldi in Navan (which I think is better), but I don't end up going into either town to do more shopping.

chewed wrote: »

It all depends on where it is located. If it's on the outskirts of the town, I can't see how this would create more trade. People would just drive out, shop and then go home.

Keeping people in Trim rather than going to Navan? Say if I need something in a hardware shop but we've to go to Navan to get to Aldi for groceries. I'll get whatever I want to get in Woodies or somewhere in Navan rather than making another trip out and going to Leonards in Trim for example. Happens all the time with us, I'll take the kids and nip up to Woodies or Homebase to get something I need while my wife gets the groceries in Aldi. I could get everything I need to get locally in Trim though.

Aldi would have to be on the outskirts purely for parking. The proposed site is the site between the Longwood and Summerhill Roads. Surely it's better to keep local Trim shoppers in and around Trim, rather than pushing them out to Navan etc.?

And that's aside from the jobs an Aldi would bring.

PauloMN wrote: »

Surely an Aldi in Trim would actually create trade for some of those businesses, directly and indirectly?

It all depends on where it is located. If it's on the outskirts of the town, I can't see how this would create more trade. People would just drive out, shop and then go home.

Vinn, the minutes you posted, are they from the Trim Area Traders group?

I find it odd that they are objecting to this. I wonder would some of them actually like to see an Aldi go in there, but feel under pressure from other members of that group?

Trying to figure out what businesses are owned by the individuals at the meeting. Here's what I have come up with - this is just from quick Google searches so may not be accurate:

Joe Patterson - Grange Patio and Decking Centre
John Canning - Menswear
John Kiely - Kiely's Bar
Conor Dalgarno - Web design
Cathal Doyle - Grange Patio and Decking Centre
Kevin Doyle - ARK Stainless Steel
Patrick Keane - Accountant
Ken Mahon - Ampere Electrical
Eugene Kiely - Kiely's Butchers
Aine Kiely - can't find a related business

Aside from the butchers, I can't see any other business in that list that would be negatively affected, so I wonder how the objection to Aldi is unanimous.

Surely an Aldi in Trim would actually create trade for some of those businesses, directly and indirectly?

I think a group like the TAT is in general a good idea and I agree with their campaigns on town parking and on business rates. We do need businesses to work together to keep Trim a vibrant town, and keep it a worthwhile place to shop in. I do think they are off the mark on the Aldi thing though.

bocoda

if i remember they were objecting to Lidl coming to Trim in the first place.. there was a group set up to bring it to Trim and they got there way wen people that were objecting to it were seen shopping in Lidl in mullingar!!

greendom

Bringing Aldi to the town could attract more shoppers or at the very least keep shoppers in Trim rather than having to leave town to shop. Once you have to go to Navan to shop in Aldi, then you may as well stay there for the rest of your shopping.