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Nokia Lumia 800

Elessar

Does anyone have one?

I used to be a big iPhone fan, then switched to Android (Galaxy S2 is my current) but now I want to try Nokias Windows phone comeback.

Anyone have one? What do you think?

Phonesonline have it for €540.

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AntiVirus

Are you with 3 by any chance? Sounds like a carrier issue not a phone or OS problem.

micko2009

Have complained a bit in this thread over the last few months regarding the Lumia... Not so much about the windows platform but heres a couple of things ive noticed about my experience in recent times.

Regardless of the battery issues which were a major one for any early Lumia owner, I am finding other things frustrating.

I am not sure if this happans to anyone else, but I find the Call forwarding icon constantly staying on, also the Data roaming triangle will come on and stay on a good bit. I have poor enough signal in work and at home but It just bugs me that they stay on most of the day.. Checked out the settings and can't see that I am doing anything wrong.

Second gripe is the Notifications systems or lack of. I am not sure if this is a Windows Platform problem or the Lumia. My biggest annoyance is when you wake the phone up you start getting email or other notifications even though they are set up every 15 minutes to send for email.Agreed you need a certain amount of signal strength to get notifications but I remember even with my crappy 3G iPhone it was much better. BTW that doesn't happan all the time but its random.

Whatsapp sometimes works great, other times you need to physically go into the app and you might see 3 messages in a row that never got notified to the live tile. That is very annoying.

It's hard to point fingers at who's to blame.. I have had issues with the Lumia & with the windows platform but Its not a match made in heaven. I hope WP8 will be better cause if not Its back to IOS for me.

Bulmers

Ronan H wrote: »

I feel your pain with the camera. It really is poor considering how cameras of the last two years have performed. There definitely is a focus issue, and it is not cool..

agree,camera is really bad...colour is strange,focus random and quality no better than my old 3GS but maybe with updates might get better....

AntiVirus

TBi wrote: »

One question is... black or cyan?

Cyan

adox

AngryLips wrote: »

Is this Siri style functionality? Did they resuscitate that irritating MS paperclip to talk back? :pac:

Yeah it's like a simplified version of Siri. You can make calls, send text messages etc and have them read out to you. You can also open up apps with voice commands.

AngryLips

adox wrote: »

Just a quick question on voice recognition. Ive starting using it in the car with a bluetooth set to reply to text messages but cant figure out how to say a full stop, comma etc. If I use the words they just appear as the words.

Is this Siri style functionality? Did they resuscitate that irritating MS paperclip to talk back? :pac:

AngryLips

Whatsapp works fine on my Lumia. There is push notification, the only thing is that there is no icon to indicate that you have a message on the locked screen (if you happen to miss the beep and flash notice on receipt of the message) so essentially you have to unlock the screen and look at the icon to see if there's a message there.

Lemon_grass

Really like the look of the 800 and my 3GS has seen better days (and a bit sick of iOS). So it's basically a toss up between replacing my 3GS with either a Lumia 800 (maybe 900 if and when it reaches here) or a HTC One S.

My main dilemma is that I use Whatsapp on a daily basis and heard that it doesn't play nicely with WP7, specifically that the push notifications don't work and the only way to retrieve your Whatsapp messages is to open the app and check manually. Does anyone have experience of using Whatsapp with a Lumia 800?

Ronan H

FGR wrote: »

So I caved and got myself an 800. Already came with the updates installed in the O2 shop. Am loving it so far. Screen is sharp, easy to use and battery life is reasonable.

Am also impressed with how the blacks truly are black!

The one observation I've made is that the camera, although good, is not great. My 5MP Nokia C5 has a a far better focus on it. Is there any plan by nokia to resolve this issue via software or is it primarily a hardware issue?

I'm also wondering too if Tango is coming to the 800? Apologies if it's already been said but wading through all of the pages can be a little confusing..!

I feel your pain with the camera. It really is poor considering how cameras of the last two years have performed. There definitely is a focus issue, and it is not cool.

Tango is coming. It is already available on rooted handsets. At the moment it seems that the big feature of the Tango release will be tethering. Hopefully it will be one of a few big features on it...

Corruptedmorals

TBi wrote: »

Lumia 800 for E375 on amazon.de at the moment. Very tempted... but still not sure if i need an upgrade for my Trophy. One question is... black or cyan?

Cyan. Its beautiful. I was torn between it and pink but got the pink, can't imagine having black now. 375 is grand when you think they're still over 400 when locked to one network, mine was 430 from amazon.de. The price will jump slightly for vat adjustment but nothing major.

FGR

So I caved and got myself an 800. Already came with the updates installed in the O2 shop. Am loving it so far. Screen is sharp, easy to use and battery life is reasonable.

Am also impressed with how the blacks truly are black!

The one observation I've made is that the camera, although good, is not great. My 5MP Nokia C5 has a a far better focus on it. Is there any plan by nokia to resolve this issue via software or is it primarily a hardware issue?

I'm also wondering too if Tango is coming to the 800? Apologies if it's already been said but wading through all of the pages can be a little confusing..!

evolutionqy7

TBi wrote: »

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Well the 900 has
...
<SNIP>

I agree it has a lot of nice extra things, but they could have put them in the 800. It's actually one of the reasons i haven't got an 800 yet. I want the specs of the 900, in a 800 size body/screen.

Apple have crammed more into the smaller 4s than Nokia has crammed into the gigantic 900!

I really like WP7 but (ignoring the processor) there is no hardware out there that grabs me at the moment. I don't care if it only has single processor, but i do want accelerometer, BSI camera, FFC, tethering.

Couldn't agree with that more, though im sure everyone has a dream phone or a pc.
Though its hard to always find exactly what your looking for, otherwise you wouldn't buy a phone again in your life

Nokia sort or quickly threw together all the current wp7 line up. All the current line of Lumia's are Symbian or Meego devices quickly updated to run wp7 to launch it together with mango launch. Might explain the missing functions.

Hence why I sort of stayed away from the 800. I hope with the launch of WP8 they will have something small and high in specs.

I really can't stand right now the way android is going with bigger is always better philosophy. I don't want a huge screen and iPhone is way too small.

Then again if I had a Lumia 800, 900 i would be complaining because you get a lot of features for the price 800,900 are both marginally cheaper than the iPhone. So its a good bargain I think. Especially on contract, 200 +- on contract for an iPhone 4S. 99 euro for a Lumia 800

Ronan H

adox wrote: »

Just a quick question on voice recognition. Ive starting using it in the car with a bluetooth set to reply to text messages but cant figure out how to say a full stop, comma etc. If I use the words they just appear as the words.

I've done a bit of Googling. It seems that you can't do it, but I am baffled as to why it isn't possible...

http://forums.wpcentral.com/os-discussion/181509.htm

Seems like a very basic thing to not have.

adox

Just a quick question on voice recognition. Ive starting using it in the car with a bluetooth set to reply to text messages but cant figure out how to say a full stop, comma etc. If I use the words they just appear as the words.

Ronan H

Second hand is not equal to new, yes, but there have been plenty unlocked examples, still in the cellophane wrapping, on Adverts.ie over the last few weeks. You still may not agree that that is not equal to new, but for the sake of saving €50 to €100, it's new enough for me!

Edit: Sorry, I have edited the bajaysus out of this post, taken out quotes etc... I was waffling.

TBi

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Well the 900 has
...
<SNIP>

I agree it has a lot of nice extra things, but they could have put them in the 800. It's actually one of the reasons i haven't got an 800 yet. I want the specs of the 900, in a 800 size body/screen.

Apple have crammed more into the smaller 4s than Nokia has crammed into the gigantic 900!

I really like WP7 but (ignoring the processor) there is no hardware out there that grabs me at the moment. I don't care if it only has single processor, but i do want accelerometer, BSI camera, FFC, tethering.

evolutionqy7

TBi wrote: »

Eh... no...

I don't need a big screen on my phone, don't see the point of the 900.

Well the 900 has

RGB matrix on the screen so the graphics are going to look a bit sharper, also the bigger screen might appeal to some more than the others.
Front Facing Camera, might be important to some
It also has tethering, gyroscope and it runs tango

and it doesn't have the floppy charging port door, which was quit a bad usability decision even though it looks good when its covered.

Those points appeal to me very much, they didn't appeal to me on the 800.

Though aesthetics wise I think the 800 with its curved screen and smaller size is a bit more appealing, the geeky person in me chooses function over design

Hence why ill be picking it up soon when it launches in Ireland.

Though one major draw back of the 900 is that it doesnt have a BSI sensor in its camera. So pictures wont be as good as my Titan

TBi

mad muffin wrote: »

Well I sold a black one unlocked and two weeks old for €250

If you want Cyan though then I guess...

Second hand != New

or if you are more familiar with Basic

Second hand <> New

mad muffin

TBi wrote: »

Please tell me where you can get a Cyan Lumia 800 for a good price? Unlocked and from a reputable seller.

Well I sold a black one unlocked and two weeks old for €250

If you want Cyan though then I guess...

TBi

mad muffin wrote: »

I just thought that the price is quite expensive for the 800.

Please tell me where you can get a Cyan Lumia 800 for a good price? Unlocked and from a reputable seller.

mad muffin

TBi wrote: »

Eh... no...

I don't need a big screen on my phone, don't see the point of the 900.

I just thought that the price is quite expensive for the 800.

TBi

mad muffin wrote: »

800? Don't you mean 900?

Eh... no...

I don't need a big screen on my phone, don't see the point of the 900.

mad muffin

TBi wrote: »

Lumia 800 for E375 on amazon.de at the moment. Very tempted... but still not sure if i need an upgrade for my Trophy. One question is... black or cyan?

800? Don't you mean 900?

TBi

Lumia 800 for E375 on amazon.de at the moment. Very tempted... but still not sure if i need an upgrade for my Trophy. One question is... black or cyan?

kstand

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Look Under Settings -> Email + Accounts if you go in you should see Hotmail or Windows Live or Whatever you named your email. It should have a flag icon beside it.

When going into it it should

[ Account Name ]

[Download New Content]

[Download Email From]

This is how my account looks like when I go into it. Hotmail is an exchange server unless you somehow managed to set up pop Hotmail. Then that way your contacts wouldn't sync.

You can add a Windows Live ID by going to same place under Email + Accounts

Great stuff - thanks ever so much. Manged to get it done just before the phone died. If there was a "buy you a pint" icon I'd stick it on this. Thanks ever so much.

evolutionqy7

Look Under Settings -> Email + Accounts if you go in you should see Hotmail or Windows Live or Whatever you named your email. It should have a flag icon beside it.

When going into it it should

[ Account Name ]

[Download New Content]

[Download Email From]

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This is how my account looks like when I go into it. Hotmail is an exchange server unless you somehow managed to set up pop Hotmail. Then that way your contacts wouldn't sync.

You can add a Windows Live ID by going to same place under Email + Accounts

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TBi

Bulmers wrote: »

yes have hotmail account and sync'd hotmail but when i check contacts in my hotmail acc, i dont have the contacts from my phone..

is there a tickbox anywhere that i need to tick to sync phone contacts - i have mailforexchange and there is an option under the settings in email to tick what you want sync'd.

dont seem to have this for hotmail account..

That's strange. How did you add the account? Did you use mailforexchange or did you set up as a windows live account? Do you have other accounts on the phone? Maybe they are syncing there.

Go into any contact on the phone and click edit, does it say "Edit windows live"? If it says something else like "Edit google" or "edit facebook" then that's the account where your contacts are syncing to.

Bulmers

yes have hotmail account and sync'd hotmail but when i check contacts in my hotmail acc, i dont have the contacts from my phone..

is there a tickbox anywhere that i need to tick to sync phone contacts - i have mailforexchange and there is an option under the settings in email to tick what you want sync'd.

dont seem to have this for hotmail account..

evolutionqy7

Your Hotmail/Windows Live ID is the email address you registered in the start in order to access the marketplace. You were asked to create a live ID. Without making one you wouldn't be able to download apps or sync contacts, calendar or trace your phone or remote install apps from windows phone website

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-ie/apps/windows-live.aspx

Ronan H

TBi wrote: »

Bulmers wrote: »

how do you get your contacts to sync with hotmail acc?..i checked my account and the contacts have not updated..is there something i have to force to do this?

Settings->Email & Accounts->tap+hold on windows live->click sync

Assuming one has a Hotmail account. Bulmers do you? If not, add one at the above Email & Accounts page...and then do the sync bit...