lazygal wrote: » One woman even tried to argue that the host at communion is 'symbolic', and took grave offence when I pointed out if she believed that, she was Protestant.
Seachmall wrote: » That irks me. I find that irksome.
lazygal wrote: » Not a bashing thread, more curiosity. Any Irish 'Catholic' I know doesn't really follow or believe in a lot of the teachings. I know gay men who go to mass every week. I know friends of mine who use contraception and have sex before marriage. One woman even tried to argue that the host at communion is 'symbolic', and took grave offence when I pointed out if she believed that, she was Protestant. So why call yourself a Catholic if you disagree with or just don't follow most of the core teachings?
chin_grin wrote: » How's that word of the day calendar going? :pac:
Seachmall wrote: » It's quite louche*.*May or may not be correct use of the word "louche".
Dravokivich wrote: » The holy trinity that is each leaf on a shamrock and Paddy.
Penn wrote: » The cultural Catholic's Nicene Creed:
chin_grin wrote: » <counts> ................wha?
Dravokivich wrote: » St Patrick and the story of him presenting christianity to the Irish with a shamrock.
chin_grin wrote: » And that was drilled in to my head that I still remember the words (Brainwashed). They didn't make sense then and they still don't. Although I used to laugh when I would hear this being 'recited' in church. It'd sound something like this: mumble mumble mumble mumble mumumumumumble...and so on.
Penn wrote: » It's amazing when you actually start to realise what people are saying in church. I got chills the first time I realised everyone in unison chanted "IT IS RIGHT TO GIVE HIM THANKS AND PRAISE" Really, how far away is that from chanting "THE LEADER IS GOOD, THE LEADER IS GREAT. WE SURRENDER OUR WILL AS OF THIS DATE"
Penn wrote: » The cultural Catholic's Nicene Creed: We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty,maker of Heaven and earth,of all that is seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God,eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father.Through him all things were made.For us men and for our salvation he came down from Heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried.On the third day he arose again in accordance with the scriptures; he ascended into Heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified.He has spoken through the Prophets.We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Penn wrote: » It's amazing when you actually start to realise what people are saying in church. I got chills the first time I realised everyone in unison chanted "IT IS RIGHT TO GIVE HIM THANKS AND PRAISE"
lazygal wrote: » So why call yourself a Catholic if you disagree with or just don't follow most of the core teachings?
68Murph68 wrote: » Basically Irish Catholics in my experience believe 1) you get a child baptised to get into school 2) First Communion and Confirmation are 1) so that the kid will get money and wont be left out and 2) to have a day out 3) Marriage - you get married in a church because a church is where people have proper romantic weddings in films/ where your parents got married 4) Funerals - Less hassle to have a church funeral. What the alternative? 5) Christmas - Midnight Mass/ Mass on Christmas morning is a nice ritual but it doesn't mean anything really. 6) Heaven is a nice idea and less scarier than the alternatives even though it doesn't hold up to any sort of critical thinking 7) Religion in schools is fine because you have to teach kids right from wrong :rolleyes: 8) Confession is really weird and creepy Their real opinion on the whole theology business of the church Virgin birth - pull the other one Jesus the son of God - no not really Jesus died and came back three days later - yeah right Transubstantiation - you're having a laugh Children are born in a state of sin and thus need to be baptised to be cleansed - feck off Hardly any Irish Catholics believe that any of the following are in any way actually morally wrong -sex outside marriage -contraception -homosexuality -divorce Most believe that -Priests shouldn't be celibate -The Pope is not infallible and is a bit of a bollix -The organisation itself is massively corrupt and there are some serious bad apples. This is based on my experience with my family (parents, siblings, cousins) and friends. My family would all identify as Catholic (that's what they put down on the census) All have been married in churches. My sister had no problem with me being godfather to her son (even though I told her I believed it was morally wrong to baptism him - her response was "yeah but that doesn't matter" :rolleyes: ; I baptised him in the name of Satan, Buddha, the Flying Spaghetti Monster and Batman while babysitting him one day and I reckon that I this baptisms cancel out the other one)
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://wd.vanillicon.com/v2/dcc54fc0153c491ede3e66aef098573d.svg)
