woodoo wrote: » How do you feel about people from Northern Ireland who do not identify as Irish using our Passport just to get free fees in Scotland.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-17900220 I'm a little uncomfortable with it. If they wanted an Irish passport because they are happy to identify as Irish than fine. But not if its just a ticket to free fees.
Cavehill Red wrote: » Most of the NI students who go to Scottish universities are from the Protestant community. I am delighted to see that they are realising what benefits can be obtained from embracing their Irish nationality wholeheartedly, and hope to see more of this in future.
golden lane wrote: » there are a lot of protestants in ni..who are proud to be irish......
bbk wrote: » It is a loophole that in every one of us would jump on if we needed to. The UK system of fees is getting crazy and if a human being wants to further their education and can save up to 9 grand sterling by doing so, let them have it. They are in a special situation regarding the double passport here but there are a hell of a lot other people eligible for EU passports who can avail of this loophole so let them do it. The thought of people having problems with this on any other level than the fact that the UK fees system is pricing students out of the market damn near disgusts me.
golden lane wrote: » those fees don't have to be paid up front......and are only paid back when the student reaches a certain level of earnings...... the drop out rate, when students paid no fees,,,was nearly fifty percent......disgracefull really...also nine thousand is the higher end..
bbk wrote: » damn near disgusts me.
IrishAm wrote: » Bollix. They will be back in their hovels on the 12th, celebrating bonfires laden with Irish flags with KAT written on them. Hell, once they graduate, they will probably lob them into the bonfire. Embrace their Irishness me hole. They are obtaining an Irish passport for their own financial gain.
IrishAm wrote: » Disgust yourself away. Live amongst these people for a year or ten and come back to me.:rolleyes:
bwatson wrote: » What is highlighted however is another clear example of the Scottish government's Anti-England (and in turn rest of the UK) bigotry.
Cavehill Red wrote: » I am saddened by your bigotry towards your fellow Irishmen. It seems you would prefer to discriminate against your Irish brethren trapped on the wrong side of partition by insisting that they should not be entitled to the citizenship rights enshrined in the Good Friday Agreement by a referendum supported throughout our island. You should be ashamed of your partitionist mindset.
woodoo wrote: » I'm a little uncomfortable with it. If they wanted an Irish passport because they are happy to identify as Irish than fine. But not if its just a ticket to free fees.
Dudess wrote: » How?
IrishAm wrote: » Bigotry? Bigotry? Get a grip. You have no clue what the loyalists/unionists put my family through. I am a Dub. Me ma got a promotion and because me da was a hard worker, but useless, she had to accept it. Me and her went to Belfast whilst me da and my siblings stayed at home, in Dublin. I know the hun. I was tortured by them for two years. When they start behaving like my fellow Irish men, I will treat them as such.
bbk wrote: » Indeed, I was under the impression it was an EU requirement for EU member states not to charge EU students the full fees on grounds of discrimination. It is in the BBC article posted anyway. What has happened is that the countries that make up the UK are not bound by this when accepting other UK students into their educational institutions because they are a UK student before they are an EU student when they are being educated in their home country. This is the same as me being considered an Irish student to the Irish educational grant system but EU to anywhere else in the EU.
Cavehill Red wrote: » Boo-hoo. You lived in the Nationalist-Republican enclave of West Belfast for 2 years and you're crying to me? I lived in North Belfast for decades and still have a house there, mate. I've been through more than you could possibly imagine, living through the entirety of the troubles on a murder mile. Despite that, I have no problem with my Irish Protestant neighbours, am no bigot, and consider it a fantastic development that more and more are accepting Irish nationality and seeing real tangible benefits from it. I find your post a classic example of MOPEry.
