We haven't had a good Public Sector bashing thread in ages

user098 wrote: »

I've never heard you complain about it either
Better to go after ordinary workers instead eh ?

Have you been staking me and privy to what I do?

user098 wrote: »

Surprise surprise, they are not PS workers, and you get what you voted for

Paid out of the pubic purse;)

You seem to be ok with 77 people earning €35 million between them, haven't heard you condemn it yet :P

micropig wrote: »

Have you been staking me and privy to what I do?

I don't want to burst your bubble but no

, but I have read your chip on the shoulder posts about other ordinary workers.

micropig wrote: »

Paid out of the pubic purse;)

You seem to be ok with 77 people earning €35 million between them, haven't heard you condemn it yet :P

Then you've ignored the fact that I don't believe anyone should be paid more than 70k and those are the people that should be focused on, but that would not suit the ordinary worker envy frenzy agenda now would it ?

user098 wrote: »

I don't want to burst your bubble but no , but I have read your chip on the shoulder posts about other ordinary workers.

:eek::eek:cool I have a stalker, happy reading:D

so the 77 earning €35 million?

user098 wrote: »

Then you've ignored the fact that I don't believe anyone should be paid more than 70k and those are the people that should be focused on, but that would not suit the ordinary worker envy frenzy agenda now would it ?

Any time anyone comments on them, a lot of Public service employees are straight on defending wages and any concerns about the overpaid get shouted down by them

They're their own worse enemy sometimes. It's been shown there is excess in the public sector..time to chop all areas (unfortunately at the moment only front line services are been hit, while the others hide behind them)

micropig wrote: »

Any time anyone comments on them, a lot of Public service employees are straight on defending wages and any concerns about the overpaid get shouted down by them

They're their own worse enemy sometimes. It's been shown there is excess in the public sector..time to chop all areas (unfortunately at the moment only front line services are been hit, while the others hide behind them)

Surprise surprise , ordinary workers will ask people to have the honesty and decency to after the corrupt wealthy people in this country for a change, before cutting and complaining about other ordinary workers wages. Wages that are taxed then and spent on local private sector goods and services.

user098 wrote: »

Surprise surprise , ordinary workers will ask people to have the honesty and decency to after the corrupt wealthy people in this country for a change, before cutting and complaining about other ordinary workers wages. Wages that are taxed then and spent on local private sector goods and services.

But the higher paid are hiding behind the outrage of the ordinary worker.

Dudess

micropig wrote: »

Sorry to offend any paperclip tray fillers, It is an important role and valuable to the country:p

Never senior though.

Dudess wrote: »

Never senior though.

Surely some has to manage the team, in case they go rogue and put some thumb tacks in the trays:pac::pac:

MagicSean

micropig wrote: »

But the higher paid are hiding behind the outrage of the ordinary worker.

Never stopped you having a go at the lowest paid in the public sector before. Don't come on here pretending you're only mad at the highest paid. Your bitterness doesn't seem to have limits.

MagicSean wrote: »

Never stopped you having a go at the lowest paid in the public sector before. Don't come on here pretending you're only mad at the highest paid. Your bitterness doesn't seem to have limits.

Who exactly are the lowest paid in the public sector you speak of? certainly not the Gardai or the teachers

Almost 3,000 civil servants on salaries over €70,000 are to get pay increases.

It says a total of 63pc of the 31,618 workers in the civil service -- or 19,710 staff -- are eligible for an increment.

Of these, almost three-quarters, or 13,839, are on pay up to €50,000.

The payments are either annual increases or long-service payments, which are given at three- and six-year intervals in the civil service and are worth in the region of €3,000 each.

The long-service increments are given when workers have been in their job for a certain number of years after reaching the top of their pay scale.

The incremental pay scale for an assistant secretary who joined the civil service after 1995 rises in four stages from €134,523 to €153,885.

micropig wrote: »

Who exactly are the lowest paid in the public sector you speak of? certainly not the Gardai or the teachers

Ah yes here we go again, more envy frenzy. So you didn't have the qualifications or ability to earn an honest living as a guard or teacher, big boo fecking hoo.

Never mind where the 100 of billlions are going, i.e. to seanie, bertie, fingers, dunner, scama, secret bondholders and associated cronies and lick arses. What a coward.

user098 wrote: »

Ah yes here we go again, more envy frenzy. So you didn't have the qualifications or ability to earn an honest living as a guard or teacher, big boo fecking hoo.

Never mind where the 100 of billlions are going, i.e. to seanie, bertie, fingers, dunner, scama, secret bondholders and associated cronies and lick arses. What a coward.

I think if you read my posts you'll find out whether or not I have the qualifications or ability to earn an honest living as a guard or teacher, Epic Stalker Fail

As for the rest, good argument:D

The_Thing

No matter how much tax you pay, I as a Government employee, will never be your servant.

Tuesday January 24 2012
STAFF at failed state training agency FAS sought pay hikes of up to €6,000 a year when they moved to a new government department.

The wage increases were sought by their union representatives despite the fact the employees were not asked to move buildings and all that was changing was the name over the door.

Staff transferring to the same department from the Health Service Executive (HSE) also argued for higher pay scales, and unions claimed some members should no longer make pension contributions.

SIPTU argued that the FAS staff were on lower pay but would be "liable" to do the same job as a higher civil service grade worker.

Their pay starts at €57,964, rising to up to €74,311. But the assistant principal pay scale rises in increments to €76,768 for those hired before 1995, and up to €80,678 for those hired after that year.

Numerous disputes arose when 1,700 staff from FAS and the HSE moved to the department over the last few months.

No sense of entitlement here:pac: Attitudes throughout the public service need to change

micropig wrote: »

No sense of entitlement here:pac: Attitudes throughout the public service need to change

All while the corrupt attitudes of the Irish private sector, the sector that bankrupted Ireland with its shenanigans are swept under the carpet.

Meanwhile the attitudes of the Irish private sector demand that ordinary taxpayers foot the bill for over €200 billion of golden private sector speculation debts, scama, Anglo etc. etc. etc. etc. :pac::pac::pac:

billybudd

user098 wrote: »

All while the corrupt attitudes of the Irish private sector, the sector that bankrupted Ireland with its shenanigans are swept under the carpet.

Meanwhile the attitudes of the Irish private sector demand that ordinary taxpayers foot the bill for over €200 billion of golden private sector speculation debts, scama, Anglo etc. etc. etc. etc. :pac::pac::pac:

And who guaranteed this again? hmmmm some public servants was it? :rolleyes:

billybudd wrote: »

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And who guaranteed this again? hmmmm some public servants was it? :rolleyes:

No actually it was some cronie politicians, but sure never let such a thing as facts get in the way of attacking ordinary workers. :rolleyes:

I have family in the public sector

Always home by 1630

and if they stay later than 4, once a week, for half an hour, they get a flexi day, every month

this annoys me!

hondasam

LilyCricket wrote: »

I have family in the public sector

Always home by 1630

and if they stay later than 4, once a week, for half an hour, they get a flexi day, every month

this annoys me!

They get one day a month for working half hour once a week. If they stay half hour every week do they get four days?

LilyCricket wrote: »

I have family in the public sector

Always home by 1630

and if they stay later than 4, once a week, for half an hour, they get a flexi day, every month

this annoys me!

Yet another one envy frenzy type that did not have the qualifications or ability to apply :rolleyes:

hondasam wrote: »

They get one day a month for working half hour once a week. If they stay half hour every week do they get four days?

where did I mention 4 days?

user098 wrote: »

Yet another one envy frenzy type that did not have the qualifications or ability to apply :rolleyes:

this is it sure

*wishes i was at a hatch*

hondasam

LilyCricket wrote: »

where did I mention 4 days?

If they get one day for half hour in one week would they not get four days if they did half hour every week?

hondasam wrote: »

If they get one day for half hour in one week would they not get four days if they did half hour every week?

I've had a few glasses of champagne, I must check again & come back to you, my bad, they do get flexi days for ridiculous reasons, that i do stand by

hondasam

LilyCricket wrote: »

I've had a few glasses of champagne, I must check again & come back to you, my bad, they do get flexi days for ridiculous reasons, that i do stand by

I'm a PS worker and am fully aware of what flexi days we get and it's not one a month for working half hour a week. I think you are on about the bank time. You actually think PS workers get 12 flexi days a year on top of holidays?

LilyCricket wrote: »

I have family in the public sector

Always home by 1630

and if they stay later than 4, once a week, for half an hour, they get a flexi day, every month

this annoys me!

We can very easily check if your telling the truth or bullshyting.

So a few more details please : What department is it, what do they do, what grade ? What's their start time, how many days per week do they work ?

user098 wrote: »

We can very easily check if your telling the truth or bullshyting.

So a few more details please : What department is it, what do they do, what grade ? What's their start time, how many days per week do they work ?

Full time, 830, vec & finance