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Pensioners evicted from their home today!!

flynnlives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9u_rV7VGqw

via http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/04/18/the-eviction-in-killiney-new-video/

quite distressing video towards the end.

Not sure of the details.

There is something rotten in the state of Ireland!!

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Thoie

sunflower27 wrote: »

How are they allowed to set up the tent on the road?

That image just screams FOOLS to me.

I want to know how they're able to set up the tent on the road - what's stopping it from blowing away?

Dead Man Walking

Thoie wrote: »

I want to know how they're able to set up the tent on the road - what's stopping it from blowing away?

Stubbornness and entitlement

battle_hardend

i can understand how people view a principal residence as sacred and a persons castle but theese people have a list of properties , if they cherished thier kiliney residence that dearly , surely they would sell as many of thier other properties as nescessery to gather enough funds to settle thier outstanding debts on thier former kiliney residence , if they had sold some of theese rental properties two years ago when they stopped paying the mortgage on thier kiliney residence , they would have been in better shape as house prices were considerabley higher two years ago , its obvious they were hoping the bank would wait with them for the housing market to bounce back , i suspect thier plan was too eventually offload some of thier rental properties and put things right with the banks re_ kiliney

Milk & Honey

Doc Ruby wrote: »

You can actually. Needing the house for your own use or that of a relation is a legitimate legal reason for eviction in Ireland. And given they had two years to do it, well, I'm short on sympathy.

It is not a legal legitimate reason for eviction in Ireland. The only legal legitimate reason for eviction is because of a court order.
A person who wants his tenant out in order to move in himself has to go through the same termination process as anybody else.

Halloran springs

Thoie wrote: »

I want to know how they're able to set up the tent on the road - what's stopping it from blowing away?

Maybe, by principle of avoiding to pay their mortgage, they have indirectly discovered a way to avoid the laws of physics also ?

Not sure mate

There's more to this case than "meets the eye".

Thoie

Halloran springs wrote: »

Maybe, by principle of avoiding to pay their mortgage, they have indirectly discovered a way to avoid the laws of physics also ?

Not sure mate

There's more to this case than "meets the eye".

In want of a better answer, I'm going to assume they're sitting on gold bullion.

Monty Burnz

Thoie wrote: »

In want of a better answer, I'm going to assume they're sitting on gold bullion.

Yeah - probably the half a million euros in cash that they saved by living for free in the house the last 4 years or so.

Defiler Of The Coffin

They're making a right show of themselves. Have they no shame?

Milk & Honey

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

They're making a right show of themselves. Have they no shame?

Shame is for little people.

GarIT

Milk & Honey wrote: »

It is not a legal legitimate reason for eviction in Ireland. The only legal legitimate reason for eviction is because of a court order.
A person who wants his tenant out in order to move in himself has to go through the same termination process as anybody else.

I've been told before that it is in the constitution that if a landlord or an immediate member of his family becomes homeless he can evict any tenant without notice. I don't know if its true though, so does anyone have a pdf of the constitution anywhere?

prinz

GarIT wrote: »

I've been told before that it is in the constitution that if a landlord or an immediate member of his family becomes homeless he can evict any tenant without notice. I don't know if its true though, so does anyone have a pdf of the constitution anywhere?

It isn't.

http://www.constitution.org/cons/ireland/constitution_ireland-en.htm

GarIT

outtagetme wrote: »

Doubt it too. Wouldn't surprise me if they were holed up in some seedy digs like the Gresham or Westbury (on the credit card of course).

It was on the radio that an online newspaper rented a helicopter and could see no sign of a tent.

Milk & Honey

GarIT wrote: »

I've been told before that it is in the constitution that if a landlord or an immediate member of his family becomes homeless he can evict any tenant without notice. I don't know if its true though, so does anyone have a pdf of the constitution anywhere?

You were probably told about Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy by the same person.

Tipsy McSwagger

Are they dead yet?

Bubblefett

They should look on the bright side, one less house to pay housecharge on

Seriously though, I was horrified when I saw the video of them getting evicted, then I read about them.
Now I couldn't care less. I think they're making a show of themself. Poor rich people get evicted from mansion, and won't consider moving into one of the many other properties they own.

1st world problem=I can't live in my mansion anymore

:rolleyes:

Ghost Buster

philstar wrote: »

nice tent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l2UEV_-Fu4

Have they no shame? They go from two people in a 5 bedroom house to two people in a 4 man tent...FOR SHAME!!!!!

Milk & Honey

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Have they no shame? They go from two people in a 5 bedroom house to two people in a 4 man tent...FOR SHAME!!!!!

A two man tent should be enough for them!

NIMAN

It was shocking viewing, UNTIL I heard their history, and it does appear they were just greedy.

Plus they knew 2 years ago that they had to leave the house, and despite owning 20 other properties, did nto make arrangements to have somewhere else to move into, instead deciding to cry on the news and say they were now homeless.

Their age will get a lot of sympathy, but if you are able to buy 21 properties, then you know how the world works.

Jez, sure even Enda said that they should just have moved into another of their own properties.

cloud493

What's the story exactly?

Unknown Soldier

cloud493 wrote: »

What's the story exactly?

#OccupKilliney

connundrum

2 comments about the video:

1) the sheriff does a quare good job of holding up the pot plant outside the door.

2) yer one taking the video is a bit annoying with the sniffles.

Callan57

I've only now had a chance to watch that video & I must say the Abbey is loosing out badly .... so very fine actors in Killiney with excellent vocal projection :rolleyes:

dpqt

Never realised Ghandi was a landlord who lost his multi-million property through failure to pay his way to the bank loaning him their money. Apparently he also departed from his usual non-violent protest philosophy as this man did as he was been evicted. I always thought Ghandi was that fella who took a vow of poverty, and preached non-violent tactics under all circumstances. How naive I was, you learn something new everyday as they say.

Monty Burnz

Milk & Honey wrote: »

A two man tent should be enough for them!

I hear they have 20 other tents.

Monty Burnz

NIMAN wrote: »

It was shocking viewing, UNTIL I heard their history, and it does appear they were just greedy.

I don't really see why it was so shocking. Two people being gently escorted off a property. The only aggression was coming from the geriatric who kept running at the poor bailiffs yelling "f*ck off" and "get away from me".

Thoie

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I don't really see why it was so shocking. Two people being gently escorted off a property. The only aggression was coming from the geriatric who kept running at the poor bailiffs yelling "f*ck off" and "get away from me".

Likewise, the only shocking about it was the trespasser's bad behaviour, and the women interfering with the sheriff and bailiffs, and that wasn't so much shocking as disgraceful.

mikemac1

Why is our local TD Joan Collins of Peope before Profit Alliance supporting the Kellys

She was on the radio today

It sort of goes against everything she has ever said about wealth tax and burn the bankers and her usual talk
If I was Mr Kelly's tenant and couldn't pay my rent would she support me?

United Left Alliance - socialism for millionaires and landlords :rolleyes:

GarIT

Thoie wrote: »

Likewise, the only shocking about it was the trespasser's bad behaviour, and the women interfering with the sheriff and bailiffs, and that wasn't so much shocking as disgraceful.

When you say trespasser do you mean the man that had lived in the house or the bailiffs?

Threads like this get so confusing when so many people have different ideas on who is trespassing. I myself agree with the law, that the man that was living in the house was the trespasser.

true

catthinkin wrote: »

i feel sorry for them tbh yes they gambled and lost yes they are now making an un holy show of themselves yes they are cupable for the mess they are in BUT the nationwide bank and their advisors should be shot what utter madness to lend someone that kind of money based on a property portfoilio which was also indebted .

I would love to see the financial mechanics which made the lending even possible ?? how did the bank even obtain insurance given the couples age ???

the Banks have never had their mortgage books opened and audited publically i am guareenteeing if they did we would all be horrified at the kind of lending pratices that went on in the good times .
core principles of banking were ignored and twisted in every direction 10 times a person salary was being leant sheer madness .

+1. Where is trhe bank manager and the regulator and the central bank officials who created the mess / allowed it to happewn. They still got their big bonuses , big salaries and big pensions for selling/ allowing the selling of mortgages without prudence to people like the above.

Monty Burnz

mikemac1 wrote: »

United Left Alliance - socialism for millionaires and landlords :rolleyes:

Meh. Our whole society, media and government seem determined to put those with property ahead of those without regardless of the cost to the taxpayer and the state. Everything they have done has been to try to prop up property prices - NAMA, nationalising the banks, the mortgage moratorium and so on. It is costing us dozens of billions.

All so that those who signed on the dotted line - regardless of their current ability to pay - get to keep whatever they signed for. And a big F*CK OFF to anybody coming up behind them with the aspiration and the ability to pay for a place of their own - they are condemned to a purgatory of renting from Ireland's sh!tty stock of rental properties like the second-rate citizens they are.

/rant