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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

SlickRic

discussion continues from here.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056520659&page=350

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whatawaster

I would guess Henderson and possibly Shelvey and Kelly might take part in the olympics as well. There were rumours Sterling was on the radar for it also

LuckyLloyd

Handsome Bob wrote: »

It's comical when you think about it...I could say a lot on this but if I did, I'd be demodded and site banned.

I'll field it then.

This stuff is very, very simple. In order to want to use Hillsborough as a point scoring measure, you have to be the owner of a dreadfully warped and bitter little mind. In this regard no scenario is excusable:

- That you dislike the idea that the deaths could be publically mourned 23 years on;
- That you detest the idea that Liverpool might not play on the anniversary 23 years on;
- That you read something that suggested the behaviour of Liverpool fans on the day contributed in whole or part to some or all of the deaths;
- That you assume the behaviour of Liverpool fans on the day contributed in whole or part to some or all of the deaths;
- That you even believe Liverpool fans could have been capable of deliberately behaving in a fashion on the day that would contribute to some or all of the deaths;

If any of the above allign with how you view the event, then you are fully consumed by hate. Infact, you are so twisted by irrational hatred it is probably fair to assume that you are a nasty individual. Best avoided, and certainly not worth engaging with on this forum or anywhere else.

'But what about Heysel?' you probably cry. Yeah, Heysel was a ****ing nightmare. A true stain on the legacy and tradition of this club. Ultimately unforgivable - and good luck finding a Liverpool fan who'll think any different. But that has nothing to do with what took place at Hillsborough, where 96 football fans needlessly lost their lives because of gross incompetence on the part of the police and those organising the fixture.

'But what about the victims of the Bradford Fire or the Ibrox disaster?' you'll surely splutter. Those clubs are absolutely entitled to take any steps they see fit to mourn the shocking loss of life suffered on those days. I don't think you'll find any Liverpool fan who would disrespect their customs in that regard (or the absence of any customs if that is what they have deemed appropriate).

Tragedies don't have to be compared. One is not bigger or smaller than another. All uneccesary loss of life is dreadful, and should be treated as such. Human nature is to be focused on our own experiences and the things that affect ourselves and our own people.

By all means ignore the Hillsborough anniversary if you feel it means nothing to you. That is one thing. But trying to score points off it or undermine its significance to those who have been touched by it or wish to commemerate it? You've hopped the ****ing fence. **** you.

Kess73

Post of the thread and will remain so imho.

Leiva

Deserves it's own thread tbh. 10/10 LL

Maybe it's about time this forum had a good oul education session and put to bed some of these sickening point scoring posts.

K-9

Leiva wrote: »

Deserves it's own thread tbh. 10/10 LL

Maybe it's about time this forum had a good oul education session and put to bed some of these sickening point scoring posts.

Thing is, that's outside the Soccer forums remit, it isn't education on Hillsborough they need!

It really is pointless arguing with them. You'd think after all this time they'd have some evidence to contradict the reports! Its a sad indictment of the world today when lies still live on like that. It really is as simple as police ineptitude and negligence and I say corruption in the cover up.

Gbear

K-9 wrote: »

Thing is, that's outside the Soccer forums remit, it isn't education on Hillsborough they need!

It really is pointless arguing with them. You'd think after all this time they'd have some evidence to contradict the reports! Its a sad indictment of the world today when lies still live on like that. It really is as simple as police ineptitude and negligence and I say corruption in the cover up.

People will always believe what they want to believe.
If you have an irrational hatred of something or someone it's a backdoor for stupidity to creep in through.
"Liverpool are evil"
---> "Hillsborough was their own fault because they're evil"
---> "They're evil because of [insert lies from the Rag here]"

It's a kind of tautological nonsense that's impervious to reason, evidence or logic and it's not confined solely to football. You get the same ****e in British and Irish relations, between people from the US and the middle east and sectarianism in the north.

gafferino

Great posts lads.....

gafferino

random........

why would the indo have a picture of Diouf in a Liverpool jersey next to a story of him being questioned for assault. Ridiculous.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/police-quiz-footballers-hadji-diouf-and-anton-ferdinand-after-nightclub-brawl-3081870.html?start=1

Kess73

Just a shame the club ever bought him. A vile individual on the pitch during his time at Liverpool, and a vile individual off it when he lived in the area.

Would go as far as to say that every club he played for after he left Liverpool were far too good for the likes of him.

Turtyturd

Other Chelsea game is on the 8TH of May at 8:00pm.

Handsome Bob

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'll field it then.

This stuff is very, very simple. In order to want to use Hillsborough as a point scoring measure, you have to be the owner of a dreadfully warped and bitter little mind. In this regard no scenario is excusable:

- That you dislike the idea that the deaths could be publically mourned 23 years on;
- That you detest the idea that Liverpool might not play on the anniversary 23 years on;
- That you read something that suggested the behaviour of Liverpool fans on the day contributed in whole or part to some or all of the deaths;
- That you assume the behaviour of Liverpool fans on the day contributed in whole or part to some or all of the deaths;
- That you even believe Liverpool fans could have been capable of deliberately behaving in a fashion on the day that would contribute to some or all of the deaths;

If any of the above allign with how you view the event, then you are fully consumed by hate. Infact, you are so twisted by irrational hatred it is probably fair to assume that you are a nasty individual. Best avoided, and certainly not worth engaging with on this forum or anywhere else.

'But what about Heysel?' you probably cry. Yeah, Heysel was a ****ing nightmare. A true stain on the legacy and tradition of this club. Ultimately unforgivable - and good luck finding a Liverpool fan who'll think any different. But that has nothing to do with what took place at Hillsborough, where 96 football fans needlessly lost their lives because of gross incompetence on the part of the police and those organising the fixture.

'But what about the victims of the Bradford Fire or the Ibrox disaster?' you'll surely splutter. Those clubs are absolutely entitled to take any steps they see fit to mourn the shocking loss of life suffered on those days. I don't think you'll find any Liverpool fan who would disrespect their customs in that regard (or the absence of any customs if that is what they have deemed appropriate).

Tragedies don't have to be compared. One is not bigger or smaller than another. All uneccesary loss of life is dreadful, and should be treated as such. Human nature is to be focused on our own experiences and the things that affect ourselves and our own people.

By all means ignore the Hillsborough anniversary if you feel it means nothing to you. That is one thing. But trying to score points off it or undermine its significance to those who have been touched by it or wish to commemerate it? You've hopped the ****ing fence. **** you.

I was referring to the double standards of people but fantastic post all the same.

amiable

amiable

ollie1

That picture is hilarious :pac:

mayordenis

I love Lucas he always looks like he's hanging out back in the late 80's/early 90's

billymitchell

mayordenis wrote: »

I love Lucas he always looks like he's hanging out back in the late 80's/early 90's

Looks to me like he is a big fan of instagram!!

hefferboi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNXuDmWzhrs

Dunno if this was posted but its class.

amiable

hefferboi wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNXuDmWzhrs

Dunno if this was posted but its class.

No harm posting it again

adox

Lads I don't normally post in here. As you see from my sig I'm a Utd supporter so don't really poke my nose in here and just leave it to you guys and others to discuss your team.

I'm one of the ones who "hate" Liverpool. They are still the no 1 enemy football wise. I use the word "hate" in a football sense and I'm sure many of you "hate" Utd and I'd expect nothing less.

I was personally disgusted at the lack of respect shown by a section of the Chelsea supporters during the minutes silence at yesterday's game and commented so at the time on the match thread.

I'm sure the vast majority of Utd and other supporters on here were too. I'm old enough to remember the Hillsborough disaster, the TV images at the time, the disgusting front page photos on the tabloids and the lies and hatred written by the Sun in the aftermath.

I'll always be biased when it comes to defending Utd and have a blind spot when it comes to Liverpool but some things should just go without saying and obviously recognising and respecting the Hillsborough disaster is one of them.

It's a sad reflection on society that it isn't.

Anyway you probably won't see me again in this thread but just felt compelled to put my view across here.

Gbear

hefferboi wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNXuDmWzhrs

Dunno if this was posted but its class.

Thats brilliant. It'd be far better to see matches like that all the time without ****wit commentators waffling on.

They originated out of necessity because you can't see a match when it's on Radio. They're completely redundant if you can actually see what's happening yourself.

hefferboi

Gbear wrote: »

Thats brilliant. It'd be far better to see matches like that all the time without ****wit commentators waffling on.

They originated out of necessity because you can't see a match when it's on Radio. They're completely redundant if you can actually see what's happening yourself.

That would be actually going to the matches :P

kingshankly

Watching reinas celebrating with jones at the end he is just totally delighted for the lad.
What a class act pepe is as a footballer and a man

Gbear

hefferboi wrote: »

That would be actually going to the matches :P

Numpty:p

Dub13

Have not be on her ein a few days,looks like I missed a lot.

Leiva

Dub13 wrote: »

Have not be on her ein a few days,looks like I missed a lot.

Did you make the game afterall or hang around after the Wedding ?

Dub13

Leiva wrote: »

Did you make the game afterall or hang around after the Wedding ?

I did not make it was to much,a few of the lads did but to be honest it was difficult for me to make it to the hotel bar for the game never mind getting from tullow to London.

amiable

Just booked flight for the final

Sappy404

hefferboi wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNXuDmWzhrs

Dunno if this was posted but its class.

No Black Eyed Peas at the end?

amiable

Ben Smith ‏ @BenSmithBBC

John Henry and Tom Werner clocking up miles this week. They'll be back on Merseyside for more talks about #LFC this week

Fuhrer

hefferboi wrote: »

Dunno if this was posted but its class.

Strange seeing a match from that angle, cool view of the Everton goal though