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Households must pay for water meters.

Bullseye1

Main headline on today's The Sunday Times. Link to story here.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/householders-must-pay-for-water-meter-installation-547549.html?m=false

So not only will you be responsible as a householder to pay for your water but also for the expensive installation of a water meter. Yet again your local authority has let you down through bad planning and development.

Again ask yourself where did all the money go, the millions paid in levies. Why weren't developers forced during planning and construction process to provide meters.

Estimates from government is that it will cost €300-€350 but experts which thr government have none say it will be closer to €500-€600.

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themadchef

Sarn wrote: »

So they'll charge us for the installation and then have a standing charge. :rolleyes:

Good luck to them trying to get people to pay for the installation.

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Yeah, i heard that fired around alot before the property tax and what? 60% of the country bottled it.

The country will pay, because we always do. We dont like confrontation, we follow the rules. We dont break them. Good little folk of Ireland, until finally we will reach a tipping point, no idea what that will be but it wont be a fúcking water meter.

I didint pay the property tax, i wont pay this.
I pay every cent in tax, and prsi and God knows what else but until the government gets its fúcking act together i say no more. My home is not up for grabs, not on the table. Go take it from the banks.

Fighting Irish

I thought water meters have been put into new builds for years, well except for one off houses

Fighting Irish

AntiRip wrote: »

Some of which getting a great wage. I know someone who works in the public sector and because they got a house years ago by the government they were exempt from the household tax and me on btea had to pay. (well I didn't pay )

Well stop being a moan bag then

Kintarō Hattori

Fighting Irish wrote: »

I thought water meters have been put into new builds for years, well except for one off houses

No I think it's that new builds can easily accommodate a water metre. It was explained to me when we bought our house that it was almost a matter of just bolting a metre into the point which incidentally is just outside my front gate rather than inside the property such as it is in my parents home.

Someone was obviously thinking ahead.

CrazyRabbit

I wonder how they will install the meters without trespassing on private property and, in essence damaging private property (whatever pipes that have to mess around with)?

What's the worst they can do? Turn off the supply from the street? Doesn't take a genius to turn it back on. In fact, I'm sure many enterprising people will offer to do so for a small charge.

donegal_road

MickySticks wrote: »

Jesus these cunts won't be happy until the arse is falling from our trousers. They say the Household Charge is paying for "local services", hmm let me see, we pay for our bins, they're making us pay for water, we pay for the fire brigade and only for the tidy towns committee in my area this place would be in a right mess. Plus we pay extortionate road tax!

So what the fuck are we paying for? The roads are in shite, there's no library in my area and the local school is falling apart.

Gombeens the lot of them, they can tell Merkel and Sarkosy to fuck right off!

but.. how are they supposed to go abroad for ST Patrick's day to represent Ireland? we need to provide them with as much funds as possible for these excursions, no?

AntiRip

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Well stop being a moan bag then

What are you trying to say?

Fighting Irish

AntiRip wrote: »

What are you trying to say?

Weh Weh Weh

Public sector worker got free house
Public sector worker doesn't have to pay the tax

Biggins

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

So what services is this household charge covering?

Its for water.
...O wait, we will pay for that!

Its for rubbish collection.
......O wait, we will already pay for that!

Its for electricity.
......O wait, we will already pay for that!

Its for your gas bill.
......O wait, we will already pay for that!

Its for your roads.
......O wait, we will already pay for that in car tax!

Its for your fire services
......O wait, we will pay for that in call out charges!

Its for your local library.
......O wait, we will already pay for that in yearly fees!

Its for...

Sorry ...fcuk if I know! :mad:

AntiRip

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Weh Weh Weh

Public sector worker got free house
Public sector worker doesn't have to pay the tax

Awh public sector I see. If you weren't just a ... you'd see the point I was trying to make about the unfairness of the tax. Don't bother wasting your time replying to me, I block all knobs like yourself :rolleyes:

donegal_road

see how the sniveling w**kers waited until the household charge was signed up for before they announced this.

Naomi00

So you have to pay for **** quality water...makes loads of sense.

Biggins

donegal_road wrote: »

see how the sniveling w**kers waited until the household charge was signed up for before they announced this.

Yep, they now have 800,000+ names and addresses they can directly send this latest next bill out to.
Let me be blunt - they got you by the balls!

...And thats before even they might hand the whole mess over to a private company later who will then, lets be honest, do even more so what they like and good luck taking them on with their bills as they gradually even further increase!

You might get a free hat though: http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7375/hatwk.jpg

Icepick

Water is a product similar to electricity and gas and should have been charged directly a long time ago.

jetfiremuck

I can see theses meters operating like bord gais. A new gov water dept will be set up.You pay for meter installation. Itll never be your property( the meter). Youll pay a monthly ongoing standing charge and if you dont pay theyll disconnect you, ie take the meter away or lock it. Call out to reconnect at 80€ or so.

galwayrush

Icepick wrote: »

Water is a product similar to electricity and gas and should have been charged directly a long time ago.

I like many more paid for our water a long time ago..

Freddie59

jetfiremuck wrote: »

I can see theses meters operating like bord gais. A new gov water dept will be set up.You pay for meter installation. Itll never be your property( the meter). Youll pay a monthly ongoing standing charge and if you dont pay theyll disconnect you, ie take the meter away or lock it. Call out to reconnect at 80€ or so.

Then it will be privatised to a German or French operator.

Stinicker

Icepick wrote: »

Water is a product similar to electricity and gas and should have been charged directly a long time ago.

Water = Life, so pay up or die, yes nice idealogy, NeoCon America called its wants its ideology back. Plus it is Ireland its rains practically non-stop and we have more than our fair share of rainfall, it is another stealth tax to bailout the Fianna Fail gamblers I won't be paying.

Water is paid for out of general taxation, and we pay too much of this already, I swear it is if the Government has went and gone Ryanair on the whole country, every little thing is a separate charge now.

Biggins

Icepick wrote: »

Water is a product similar to electricity and gas and should have been charged directly a long time ago.

That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the FG and Labour party.
Now back to our regular viewing...

awec

Icepick wrote: »

Water is a product similar to electricity and gas and should have been charged directly a long time ago.

You think you get it free now?

[Deleted User]

Icepick wrote: »

Water is a product similar to electricity and gas and should have been charged directly a long time ago.

You can live without electricity and gas if you want to. You can't live without water. I think it's disgusting to charge for water and it's typical of a American-style capitalist system where "if you can't pay for it you can't have it" regardless of how essential it might be.

Freddie59

Stinicker wrote: »

Water = Life, so pay up or die, yes nice idealogy, NeoCon America called its wants its ideology back. Plus it is Ireland its rains practically non-stop and we have more than our fair share of rainfall, it is another stealth tax to bailout the Fianna Fail gamblers I won't be paying.

Water is paid for out of general taxation, and we pay too much of this already, I swear it is if the Government has went and gone Ryanair on the whole country, every little thing is a separate charge now.

And all being propped up by a "socialist" party.......

Stinicker

Karsini wrote: »

You can live without electricity and gas if you want to. You can't live without water. I think it's disgusting to charge for water and it's typical of a American-style capitalist system where "if you can't pay for it you can't have it" regardless of how essential it might be.

Ironically true American Capitalism is a far superior system to what we are subjected to what I would call Cronie-Capital-Socialism, basically socialism for the wealthy where failure is rewarded massively and dog eat dog capitalism for the people where you can have nothing for free and have to pay through the nose for every single thing. No wonder so many people live off the state, I can't blame them when you see how corrupt Ireland is.

Many people have alot of hate for George W. Bush and rightly so however I will admire him for letting Lehman brothers fail, he stood by and did nothing and left the business fail, that was true capitalism where the state should not interfere.

If a small business gets in trouble there is no help or rescue, similarly for the self employed who cannot even draw welfare, however if you are a large multi-billion bank or corporation it is bailouts all round, slaps on the back, a huge bonus rewarding failure and mass theft and then brandys and cigars afterwards in the ol'd bhoys club with whatever crooked politician you have bribed out.

lugha

Karsini wrote: »

You can't live without water.

Should food be free also?

I certainly think that people should have the choice not to be supplied with water if they want to source it themselves.

Biggins

Freddie59 wrote: »

And all being propped up by a "socialist" party.......

:pac:

Socialist? :pac:

The founding members of Labour have turned over in their graves months ago with the antics of the current lot of two-faced traitors to the very people they are supposed to be also representing.

Morag

They will be told to get the hell off my property.

The_Thing

As soon as the metering infrastructure is in place the Government traitors will auction it off to the highest bidder and the money raised from the sale will go to the bond-holders.

FG \ Labour should be drowned in barrels full of their own piss.

woodoo

So fast forward 3 years and your average family will be paying €1000 property tax, €500 motor tax €300 water tax. Still having to pay for their own bin collection.

awec

I wonder when they bring in these water charges, will whatever tax I pay now for my water be reduced accordingly, or in reality am I going to just be paying for my water twice. :rolleyes:

Because you can be damn sure you're not getting free water now!

Biggins

The_Thing wrote: »

...FG \ Labour should be drowned in barrels full of their own piss.

Shush, they will charge us for that too.