Discodog wrote: » If the death of a horse is going to make you break down in floods of tears then why subject to so much risk ? One of my dogs would love to chase across a particular field. I stop him because he might hit the barbed wire fence. We have a duty to keep our animals reasonably safe. I thought that the comments of the RSPCA man, who specialises in Horse Racing were spot on. He admitted that all racing carries an element of risk but the risks in the National are too high. Risk can be reduced. Formula one went through a period where a lot of drivers died whereas now it is an extreme rarity. The sport still attracts huge crowds & TV coverage - reducing the risk can enhance the sport.
cson wrote: » Anyway, anyone involved in racing knows the dangers.
Da Shins Kelly wrote: » I think this thread is going round in circles at this stage..
Seomra Mushie wrote: » Including the horses? Who briefs them?
Seomra Mushie wrote: » I think it's kinda like foxhunting, it's something there'll never be agreement on. A very polarising topic.
cson wrote: » Little bit of perspective darling; the incumbent Syrian Government has slaughtered around 9,000 people (actual human beings) and you're getting your knickers in a twist over 2 horses?
awec wrote: » No it isn't. It's nothing like fox hunting.
calfmuscle wrote: » I have seen horses jump out of fields and break legs, much to the upset of the owners, stable staff and vets. They where not put at risk they jumped because that's what they do.
admiralofthefleet wrote: » ill give you 100/1 that it is banned within 10 years
Micky Dolenz wrote: » Like a track?
Seomra Mushie wrote: » This is the second comment like this of yours that I don't really get. In an earlier one, you said that it was less cruel as these horses were bred to race, and the bulls were bred for bull fighting. I not really following how that makes it less cruel, especially the bull fighting. The bull doesn't know he's being bred for that purpose and even if he did, he's not going to feel pain any less.
kfallon wrote: » Not all tracks are circular, if you knew one iota about racing you'd know this :rolleyes:
Mickeroo wrote: » My own moral viewpoint is that horse racing should be made safer and bull fighting should be banned as its extremely cruel towards the animal. In that previous post I was merely pointing out the complexitiy of the issue as neither race horses nor fighting bulls would even exist if it was not for their respective sports, they were bred for a specific purpose, without that purpose they lose their function/usefulness. Is it really cruel to use an animal for the purpose it was made? Its not something I claim to have a definitive answer on tbh. The same argument can be made for dairy cows, animals bred for their meat etc.
Micky Dolenz wrote: » But some are by your reasoning. So what's your point?
Discodog wrote: » One similarity between the racing & hunting arguments is that people suggest that only "experts" are entitled to an opinion. The Hunting crowd say that "townies" should mind their own business & the racing fraternity say that you shouldn't have an opinion unless you attend lots of races. The welfare of animals is a national concern & everyone is entitled to a say.
El Horseboxo wrote: » I don't watch horse racing but i hear of the stories of horses that broke legs having to be put down. Just wondering are there many horses put down due to injuries in flat racing compared to the hurdles? Is it a rare thing in the flats?
kfallon wrote: » My point is you're talking thru your hole, as usual!
later12 wrote: » ... However, there is a credibility issue in question when people attach human emotions to horses and respond with outrage at the notion that a horse might enjoy hunting.
argosy2006 wrote: » If you were to ban horse racing today then 1000's and 1000's of horse races around the world would be killed tomorrow, They would have no purpose, Now who wants to kill 1000's of race horses
argosy2006 wrote: » If you were to ban horse racing today then 1000's and 1000's of horse races around the world would be killed tomorrow, They would have no purpose, Now who wants to kill 1000's of race horses, No one,
argosy2006 wrote: » If you were to ban horse racing today then 1000's and 1000's of horse races around the world would be killed tomorrow, They would have no purpose, Now who wants to kill 1000's of race horses, No one, More people died yesterday in car accidents that horses died racing, So lets ban driving, No one likes to see horses die, But it happens ,sadly Fences are two high, and two many, eliminate 5 fences lower rest, make trip 4 m, Brook needs to be level on other side, Not tricking a horse into jumping a fence that is much deeper on other side, Jumping into a hole! Why?
