Samich wrote: » Kenny is losing his marbles. He's not able to manage a big club, just look at him coming onto the pitch. It's really funny, I hope he stays
Samich wrote: » It's not really pointless. The league is based on consistency. Winning a cup can be down to luck. the league really decides who's a good team and who's not. The 12 games in that poor form is 39% of the season so far. So for 39% of this season 18 teams have been in better form than Liverpool.
Andy Carroll let rip with a volley of abuse at boss Kenny Dalglish as Liverpool went into meltdown. The £35million striker’s foul-mouthed tirade came as he was subbed 11 minutes from the end of another embarrassing defeat. Carroll, who had earlier been booked for diving and was mocked by Toon fans throughout, made no attempt to hide his feelings before marching down the tunnel. To add to Liverpool’s misery, Pepe Reina was sent off for violent conduct, dipping his head into James Perch, and departed the pitch offering the Newcastle defender a fight. Carroll stormed off the pitch red-faced and close to tears, growling: “F****** joke this, f****** ****, f*** off,” towards the dug out. He is suspended for the next three games including the FA Cup semi final with Everton. Carroll, who was booked for diving in the penalty area, also clashed with Pardew on the touchline, telling his former boss: “It wasn’t a dive you f****** c***.”
eagle eye wrote: » The amount of epically stupid statements in this thread is just unreal. Here is just one example of many. Dalglish managed Liverpool to multiple titles. How on earth you don't know that or can just decide it doesn't prove anything is beyond me.
gosplan wrote: » AFAIK Amos played 90 minutes for Untied and didn't concede
Helix wrote: » fortunately for them the table is calculated over 100% of games, not 39% of them
counterlock wrote: » Its one of those ones where you can use the stats to back up your arguement from either side. I'm sure if you look at the season until xmas Liverpool are probably top 4 or 5. You can roll out any stat you want if you are selective with the criteria. What the stat proves is that Liverpool have played badly since xmas - which we all knew anyway.
Leftist wrote: » Liverpool are not a big club anymore. Football has changed dramatically since his glory days of the 80s. Not a stupid comment at all. could you imagine him at Bayern, Madrid or even arsenal? he was a disaster at celtic and was sacked by newcastle.
Leftist wrote: » the point of showing a table of games played since Jan is to indicate liverpool's form. It's a fair reflection of form since that time of the season and should offer absolutely zero consolation based on the fact that the season was in august as liverpool were nowhere near the top 4 before the time frame began. But carry on.
eagle eye wrote: » Its proven that Dalglish will get his team where it needs to be given the time to do it
sReq | uTeK wrote: » Brilliant.
Helix wrote: » no, its proven that he could to it a generation ago things have changed
eagle eye wrote: » I love the way you turn around now and bring up the generation thing. When Houllier went to Villa I told you it would be a disaster because he had been out of management for five years and at his age and with his history of health problems it would never work out. Dalglish had to deal with that as well but he is a younger man and in good health. He is now fully back in the game and as I've said he has proven in the past that given time he will bring success to a club.
quarryman wrote: » ok, this weekend then.
eagle eye wrote: » Leftist wrote: » Liverpool are not a big club anymore. Football has changed dramatically since his glory days of the 80s. Not a stupid comment at all. could you imagine him at Bayern, Madrid or even arsenal? he was a disaster at celtic and was sacked by newcastle. I don't know what planet you are living on but Liverpool are still a huge club. Dalglish only spent a couple of months as manager of Celtic after Barnes was sacked. At Newcastle he had one full season in charge and didn't do that badly. At Liverpool he took over an older team and won the league, it took him two years to replace those players and get Liverpool back on top. At Blackburn we thought we were all set to have a go at the league once we bought Shearer but we weren't good enough, the next season he went out and bought a new goalkeeper, central midfielder and Chris Sutton. We won the league the next season. Its proven that Dalglish will get his team where it needs to be given the time to do it. He has to be given another season in charge, if he fails to improve the team dramatically next season then there is a case for calling for his resignation/sacking.
eagle eye wrote: » I don't know what planet you are living on but Liverpool are still a huge club.
Helix wrote: » fan expectation is no longer based in reality. they're not a top tier team any more, and they'll need a lot of work to become one again
Helix wrote: » houllier wasnt a disaster though in fairness, things were staring to come together nicely for him kenny has pretty much shown that he's lost touch with the modern game on a number of levels consistently this year we get it, you think he's a hero coz he delivered at blackburn, but christ almighty that was a long time ago. he's failed consistently since that job
eagle eye wrote: » Here if you are going to say something like the second paragraph give us some examples.
eagle eye wrote: » I don't know what planet you are living on but Liverpool are still a huge club. Dalglish only spent a couple of months as manager of Celtic after Barnes was sacked. At Newcastle he had one full season in charge and didn't do that badly. At Liverpool he took over an older team and won the league, it took him two years to replace those players and get Liverpool back on top. At Blackburn we thought we were all set to have a go at the league once we bought Shearer but we weren't good enough, the next season he went out and bought a new goalkeeper, central midfielder and Chris Sutton. We won the league the next season. Its proven that Dalglish will get his team where it needs to be given the time to do it. He has to be given another season in charge, if he fails to improve the team dramatically next season then there is a case for calling for his resignation/sacking.
Helix wrote: » his expert handling of the media his reliance on old fashioned formations and tactics that paying off his typically old-school lack of intelligence with substitutions his uninspired signings
Leftist wrote: » when was the last time liverpool were top 4 this season? I think they got to about 5th for a week about 2 months ago.
counterlock wrote: » 1Man City 1838452Man Utd 1833453Tottenham 1715384Chelsea 1815345Liverpool 199346Arsenal 188337Newcastle 19130 Here you go. 5th at the turn of the new year. So you can roll out any stat you want to prove anything you want, the only one that counts is the position at the end of the year
