jetsonx wrote: » The current third-world state of the health service is a result of years of HSE and Fianna Fail mismanagement. BTW, most senior HSE "executives" and Fianna Fail politicians get treated privately.
AngryBollix wrote: » What does one expect when cutbacks are enforced? You never get more with less. You get less with less
cloud493 wrote: » Hospitals have to do the best they can with what they have. If they don't have the money, they don't have the money. Cutbacks and what not.
subscriber wrote: » So cutbacks mean that doctors no longer have to adhere by infection control and hygiene standards?? They no longer have to wear gloves and clean up blood after patients and do not have to dispose of needle caps in bins?? Come on man... think about ur statement!!
Phoenix Park wrote: » Were you in A&E for OCD?
AngryBollix wrote: » Is this true of all doctors in the mater?
subscriber wrote: » Of course Its not true of all the doctors in there and it would be stupid of me to make such a claim but I am commenting on what I seen overall based on todays visit...
subscriber wrote: » Pretty sure OCD has nothing to do with hygiene standards. If ur comfortable with it that's your decision. I didn't mention in my OP but I too work in the healthcare sector and would never be so careless in my daily activities dealing with patients, although I do see it in my own place of work with some of my colleagues unfortunately. Thankfully not to the level of which I seen in the mater today.
subscriber wrote: » Im living in dublin on a short term basis and today had to spend 10 hours in the mater (public) hospital today due to unforeseeable circumstances, I have never in my life witnessed such a low standard of hygiene in any hospital or any other public health premises for that matter. The stink of piss in the emergency department waiting room is enough to make anyone throw up not to mention the amount of junkies and prisoners from the joy across the road falling around the place either on a come down from some illicit substance or starting arguments with other patients and generally being loud, arrogant and annoying. Once finally in the treatment area, I was seen by one of the junior (teenage) doctors who proceeded to examine me without either washing his hands or putting on a pair of sterile gloves. I also noticed a few needle caps (non sharp) just discarded on treatment trolley's after doctors had finished hanging drips for patients. On another clinical table, a doctor had finished treating a patient and there was a relatively small patch of blood left on the bed clothes.. Did he clean it up before the next patient?? You guessed it.... For the love of Jesus like, if you work in a hospital like, infection control is medicine 101 here folks.... At the end of my visit I was offered an overnight stay for a minor surgery tomorrow morning but considering it wasn't immediately life threatening I declined having decided to have it done when I go back to my home county in a few weeks and proceeded to leg it out the door, god forbid would I pick up some weird and wonderful disease..... I'm seriously considering writing a letter to HIQUA after my experiences there today...Venture to the mater if you must but you would not want to be sick going in there or your prob better off staying at home.... Are other hospitals in dublin like this or is it just the mater? Today was the first time I attended a hospital in dublin so I don't know how it stacks up to the other hospitals??
Victor_M wrote: » Was just thinking the same thing myself, washing your hands doesn't cost a penny, nor does disposing of used needles and materials. It's just bad discipline/management. We can't use cutbacks to justify everything that is wrong in Ireland.
AngryBollix wrote: » Why else would you be going to the hospital?
AngryBollix wrote: » Then it may not be a widespread practice. Surely the cleaning staff are responsible for the other stuff (the smell and failure to clean up blood etc)
AngryBollix wrote: » If the €100 household was used to improve something like this would more people pay it?
subscriber wrote: » Take it from me angry boilix, as mentioned, I also work in the healthcare sector, it is definitely the responsibility of the clinical practitioner whether he or she is a doctor, nurse, physio, paramedic, speech and language therapist or any other health care professional to clean up after clinical procedures and assessments with every patient , and there is no excuse. It is the cleaners job to empty bins, mop floors and clean canteen areas, not to dispose of clinical waste post procedures.
subscriber wrote: » today had to spend 10 hours in the mater (public) hospital
Paulzx wrote: » If you spent any amount of time around A and E's in Dublin you would come to the completely illogical conclusion that i have come to.............hospital is no place for a sick person!!!!
subscriber wrote: » So quiet obviously that comment was not meant to be taken literally and was meant to be highlight the fact that you may stand a better chance of feeling better at home as opposed to going into that that dump that is crawing with infections and I really can't believe you decided to pick that out of my original post and embarrass yourself by not understanding when a joke is due... Amateur mistake...
