ríomhaire wrote: » . I often hear that there's a dearth of physics and maths teachers in the country, so I figure if there's anyone who can get a job subbing a secondary school without a teaching diploma it's someone with a physics degree.nope, there are so many qualified subs even with experience you have almost no hope of getting subbing, unless your father is a principal:p (touchy subject with most people) So well...how do I go about doing this? I know I need to be Garda vetted and I had a look on the teaching council website about registering, but it seems to only be for people who have achieved teaching degrees which made me question can I actually do this? I have anecdotal evidence but is it true? Is there a decent chance of the council, ASTI or a school or whoever is important in this sort of thing make a special allowance in this sort of situation?I do not mean to come across as rude so apologies if I do but what sort of situation. You are looking to take a year out from studies with from what you said no intention of actually becoming a teacher so why would there be a special allowance for you. Even if you had intentions on becoming a teacher there are qualified teachers out there to do it, people who have 3 or 4 years experience, who is a principal going to pick in all honest, again don't mean to sound harsh Does anyone have advice? Should I be doing this? How should I go about it? Any personal experiences?Speaking from the experience in my school this year there is about 40 teahcers in the school, many not on full hours. We only have 1 sub that comes in when needed to do the subbing. I have no memory of anyone else coming in this year to do it. There are teachers who are on very few hours in the school and even they can not get many hours to fill up their timetable weekly.
ríomhaire wrote: » Of course I wouldn't expect special treatment. I'm not mad. (on the comment of never wanting to become a teacher, I don't see myself becoming a school teacher (though I would not rule it out 100%) but I think being a lecturer is something I could go for) I guess I didn't realise there were so many teachers vying for positions. Doing a physics degree I don't have any friends who are teachers or going in that direction (some were considering it at the start, but they decided against it or dropped out) so all I've ever heard was the lack of physics teachers, not about an overflow of qualified teachers (I know I probably should have figured from the moratorium on hiring). I wasn't expecting to be chosen over qualified teachers, just that there would be enough demand so that there would be something left for me.
gaeilgebeo wrote: » If pyhsics is offered as a leaving cert subject in a school, and remember not all schools do, it will be one class group for 5 periods a week! You have a slim to no chance of getting a job subbing as you are not qualified and there are hundreds of qualified teachers crying out for work. Teaching is not just some handy number anyone can do for a year to earn some extra cash!
ríomhaire wrote: » Oh hey, I know my post was a bit casual but I don't think teaching is an unskilled job and I don't think educating is a light duty. I know it's not just an odd-job to earn cash. If this plan actually came to fruition (looking at these replies, it seems rather unlikely) I would take it very seriously.
gaeilgebeo wrote: » If I were to decide to try out dentistry for a few months and take it very seriously, would you come to me for a filling? I just can't understand why people feel it is totally acceptable to "play" teacher!
Fizzical wrote: » A bit harsh. The OP will have a physics degree. With the poor quality of the old H Dip, many of us learned how to 'play' teacher on the job.
ríomhaire wrote: » So I'm (hopefully) finishing my physics degree in a few months and although I think I'd like to go on and do further study but the idea of taking a year out and earning some money appeals to me. I often hear that there's a dearth of physics and maths teachers in the country, so I figure if there's anyone who can get a job subbing a secondary school without a teaching diploma it's someone with a physics degree. I also have a second-hand story about one of the guys in a lab in college working as a sub for a year to fund his masters, so I figure it must be doable. I think I would make a decent teacher. I understand the subjects well and I find I am usually good at explaining things and helping people. Though my lack of real experience may be a problem here. I did correcting for first year homeworks and tests this year and I have helped people in years bellow me a little but I never did real tutoring or grinds. So well...how do I go about doing this? I know I need to be Garda vetted and I had a look on the teaching council website about registering, but it seems to only be for people who have achieved teaching degrees which made me question can I actually do this? I have anecdotal evidence but is it true? Is there a decent chance of the council, ASTI or a school or whoever is important in this sort of thing make a special allowance in this sort of situation? Does anyone have advice? Should I be doing this? How should I go about it? Any personal experiences?
solerina wrote: » You have nothing to lose by trying to find work, there is often a shortage of teachers in certain subjects, Irish is one and maybe Physics is too. People on here have a huge issue with unqualified teachers doing sub work, and I can see their point, but the fact remains that in some geographical areas there are not any qualified teachers of certain subjects available so you may be lucky that Physics and maths are required in your area. Good Luck !!
seavill wrote: » Some prow on here do have a prob with it. My issue would be someone who has no intention of teaching thinking that sure its a hàndy number anyone can do it. I've nothing else to do for a year so why not. If its only for money for a year get a job that doesn't require any qualifications. Also an unqualified person with a physics degree is as much use as an Irish teacher taking the class, except the Irish teacher has actually studied teaching The physics graduate has no proper idea of the curriculum, any teaching metholodogies classroom management skills. Sure they might be able to go in and open the book and know the material but of that's all it takes to be a teacher sure why did any of us bother getting the proper qualifications. Sure the local chef in the local pub can come in and be the home ec teacher when he's bored in the mornings. A rediculuous attitude towards our profession BTW OP that was not an attack aimed towards you I was just using that as an example apologies if it came across that way
ríomhaire wrote: » I will admit I my thinking on this was pretty naive and possibly even a little arrogant. Basically I didn't think it through enough.
