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Garda Killer takes a hike, from an open prison!

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http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0315/mcdermottm.html
Garda killer Martin Mc Dermott who recieved a 7 year sentence last July has escaped from loughan house , an open prison in Co.Cavan.
This piece of work was sentenced less than a year ago and already he was in an open prison!
Well at least the government and the prison service have their priorities right, tough on cop killers.....

not!

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steddyeddy

prinz wrote: »

howsyourtusk wrote: »

I'm just saying that reverence for an organisation that's helped cover up child sex abuse and has pinned murders on innocent people twice in recent years deserves little or no respect. And certainly not elevation above normal people dying. Someone be killed is sad and wrong, no matter who it is.

You are confusing reverence and something that was on the books back in the 1980's.

Actually the child abuse covered up was the last few years hence my lack of unconditional respect

prinz

steddyeddy wrote: »

Actually the child abuse covered up was the last few years hence my lack of unconditional respect

Oh I bet it was.

steddyeddy

prinz wrote: »

steddyeddy wrote: »

Actually the child abuse covered up was the last few years hence my lack of unconditional respect

Oh I bet it was.

Ill put up a link when Im back chief.

prinz

steddyeddy wrote: »

Ill put up a link when Im back chief.

It's funny you only mention child abuse after somebody else does. Although what child abuse has to do with this thread is beyond me.. apart from the fact that a couple of posters are using it soapbox their anti-AGS rubbish.

steddyeddy

prinz wrote: »

steddyeddy wrote: »

Ill put up a link when Im back chief.

It's funny you only mention child abuse after somebody else does. Although what child abuse has to do with this thread is beyond me.. apart from the fact that a couple of posters are using it soapbox their anti-AGS rubbish.

Read through my previous posts especially those in state benifits prinz. I work part time with a charity for abuse victims. Its not something new to me.

Im not unconditionally slating the gaurds just pointing out that praise dependent on the individual would be better suited than unconditional praise.

prinz

steddyeddy wrote: »

Im not unconditionally slating the gaurds just pointing out that praise dependent on the individual would be better suited than unconditional praise.

Having the murder of a garda a capital crime decades ago had nothing to do with unconditional praise. It was a method to try and protect unarmed gardaí who many times were the first responders to armed bank raids at the time. Very straightforward.

steddyeddy

prinz wrote: »

steddyeddy wrote: »

Im not unconditionally slating the gaurds just pointing out that praise dependent on the individual would be better suited than unconditional praise.

Having the murder of a garda a capital crime decades ago had nothing to do with unconditional praise. It was a method to try and protect unarmed gardaí who many times were the first responders to armed bank raids at the time. Very straightforward.

I agree we have moved on from those days though. A man by accounts a good man was killed by a scumbag thats the issue here.

cursai

Can't believe this has turned into Garda bashing. Jeez some ignorant people on this island. Am disgusted.

Mint Sauce

Well lets hope they contacted the PSNI first. With the boarder about a 10 minute walk away, he's well over it.

steddyeddy

cursai wrote: »

Can't believe this has turned into Garda bashing. Jeez some ignorant people on this island. Am disgusted.

Im not gaurd bashing Im sorry if it came across as such. I am disgusted at this scumbag going free. What more can I say. I complained about his sentence then and I will now.

steddyeddy

irish-stew wrote: »

Well lets hope they contacted the PSNI first. With the boarder about a 10 minute walk away, he's well over it.

Hopefully the judge involved takes a long hard look at the sentencing involved in his breakout.

batistuta9

steddyeddy wrote: »

Hopefully the judge involved takes a long hard look at the sentencing involved in his breakout.

what does how long he got sentenced have do to with him breaking out?

steddyeddy

batistuta9 wrote: »

what does how long he got sentenced have do to with him breaking out?

Hes in an open prison. He shouldnt have been.

Cee-Jay-Cee

batistuta9 wrote: »

what does how long he got sentenced have do to with him breaking out?

Because the scumbag was only 8 months into a 7 year sentence, he should never have been in an open prison in the first place. As far as i was aware loughlin house was a prison where they sent prisoners who were nearing the end of their sentence and were not considered a danger/threat to the public. McDermot is a low life scum bag who is highly dangerous and should have been in mountjoy/castlerea for the whole of his prison term not in a holiday camp (as prisoners have described it!)

batistuta9

steddyeddy wrote: »

Hes in an open prison. He shouldnt have been.

that has nothing to do with the length of his sentence though

I wouldn't say he got sent straight to the open prison either

steddyeddy

batistuta9 wrote: »

that has nothing to do with the length of his sentence though

I wouldn't say he got sent straight to the open prison either

I didnt mention the lenght of his sentence but in hindsight I should have.

batistuta9

CJC999 wrote: »

Because the scumbag was only 8 months into a 7 year sentence, he should never have been in an open prison in the first place. As far as i was aware loughlin house was a prison where they sent prisoners who were nearing the end of their sentence and were not considered a danger/threat to the public. McDermot is a low life scum bag who is highly dangerous and should have been in mountjoy/castlerea for the whole of his prison term not in a holiday camp (as prisoners have described it!)

the sentencing has nothing to do with what prison he was in though, he got 7 years for manslaughter. that was the punishment deemed fit by the law of the land

I think you get to the open prisons on good behaviour as well, i've heard some prisoners aren't that fond of them either as their boring and would rather be in the other prisons

i don't think he should be regarded as highly dangerous either

woodoo

He must be really stupid. Once caught he will get a longer sentence in the joy or Castlerea. He killed a guard so he will be sent back from the UK if that's where he has gone.

steddyeddy

batistuta9 wrote: »

the sentencing has nothing to do with what prison he was in though, he got 7 years for manslaughter. that was the punishment deemed fit by the law of the land

I think you get to the open prisons on good behaviour as well, i've heard some prisoners aren't that fond of them either as their boring and would rather be in the other prisons

i don't think he should be regarded as highly dangerous either

Surely his past sentences would have been an indication to the judge that a longer sentence was warranted?

Cee-Jay-Cee

batistuta9 wrote: »

i don't think he should be regarded as highly dangerous either

You dont know him. He is dangerous in that he will do anything not to be caught and that includes killing people or not caring whether someone gets killed.

Yes i do know him...personally.

batistuta9

steddyeddy wrote: »

Surley his past sentences would have been an indication to the judge that a longer sentence was warranted?

i don't know of any of his past sentences, so he's been inside before then i take it.

but they gave him 7 years and must have thought that fitted the crime

Cee-Jay-Cee

batistuta9 wrote: »

but they gave him 7 years and must have thought that fitted the crime

No one is questioning the lenght of the sentence, its the fact that he was in an open prison after only being sentenced last July!

batistuta9

CJC999 wrote: »

You dont know him. He is dangerous in that he will do anything not to be caught and that includes killing people or not caring whether someone gets killed.

Yes i do know him...personally.

might be a bit of an over exaggeration there. most of his convictions appear to be for traffic offences

how do you know i don't know him or people know/believe that you know him(personally) it's a pointless thing to say online tbh just look's like your trying to back up your story

baldbear

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

baldbear wrote: »

91 previous convictions, a 20 yr driving ban he kills a gaurd gets only 7 yrs in a open prison! Jesus irish justice sucks. why wasn't this mentioned on the news?

91 previous convictions!? You are kidding, right?

http://www.donegaldaily.com/2011/07/24/tragic-garda-had-planned-to-ask-girlfriend-to-marry-him-when-she-was-21/

if he was sorry like he said he should of kept his head down and done his few years instead of doing a legger and putting the gardas family through more pain.

steddyeddy

batistuta9 wrote: »

might be a bit of an over exaggeration there. most of his convictions appear to be for traffic offences

how do you know i don't know him or people know/believe that you know him(personally) it's a pointless thing to say online tbh just look's like your trying to back up your story

I dont see why anyone would make up that.

batistuta9

steddyeddy wrote: »

I dont see why anyone would make up that.

nearly 5000 posts, you know what comments online are like

and i said why he/she could have possibly made it up - to make their argument stronger

Guill

I knwo people who were fiends of this Garda. To say they are horrified would be an understatement.

GalwayKiefer

Excuse my ignorance but what exactly is an "open prison?' Low security? Prisoners sign out in the morning with the promise to be back by 5?

MagicSean

GalKiefer wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance but what exactly is an "open prison?' Low security? Prisoners sign out in the morning with the promise to be back by 5?

Pretty much. He probably had a winner at the bookies and splashed out on a night out followed by a hotel.

Ellis Dee

Wasn't it in Donegal that he killed the Garda?

I'm surprised they go so easy on cop-killers up there. Just look at the sentences handed out to those Donegal Gardai who planted evidence and coerced witnesses to frame innocent people and had Mr. McBrearty stuck in jail for years, ruined his business and broke up his family. Truly exemplary sentences those!

Oh, wait ---:rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_McBrearty,_Sr.