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Sykk

Do you like beer?

I hated "beer" and never drank it, cider and the small ones for me until my girlfriends oul' fella offered me German wheat beer (They're German) and I accepted to be polite..

To my surprise... Delish! I couldn't get the same in a pub here so I gave a pint of Heineken a crack.. I didn't know pissing in a barrel, leaving it there for 6 months had a decent spot in the market.

I like beer, real beer. Do you?

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Fart

44leto wrote: »

The Irish generally drink muck and lots of it, German and belguim tradition beers are lovely. When I was in London I thought I would try a Bitter, I took a sip and it was so foul my face contorted, I genuinely thought the barman was winding me up and serving me slops.

But I have since learned that the Bitters in the north of England are brewed by small breweries and are meant to be gorgeous. I haven't tried one though I haven't being to the north of England in years.

My beer is usually a Heineken.

I've become accustomed to drinking bitter here in Wales. The local brewery here in Cardiff is called Brains and they do a few varieties. It's quite funny at first asking for a "Pint of Brains", lol.

It's generally only around £1.99 to £2.20 a pint too.

later12

I hate, hate, hate beer snobbery. It used to be the only beverage type to have escaped the clutches of the pedantic and the pretentious. Such was its very character and purpose - to be relaxed, laid back, not giving a f*ck.

Personally, yes I agree that there are a number of continental beers available on the market which are far more palatable than some of the old stock (Heineken, Carlsberg, Smithicks, Harp (lol), and so on).

But I'm also sick of having a trip to the pub with co-workers turning into an "Obscure Beers of the World Treasure Hunt" for the sake of it. It is getting slightly mad. I really don't care that your beer tastes "floral, with full, cherry aromas and the sharpness of pin to pull it all together. I don't care that this beer was produced by hand in one of the legendary small london breweries... I don't give a shit about how hard it is to find.

I just want beer that tastes nice, so we can move on and talk about something else. I really think some people are just discovering Headless Dog and Desperados and quite losing the run of themselves.

Caveman1

I usually drink Heineken but after tasting the Heineken in Amsterdam I just dont seem to enjoy it in Ireland anymore, they taste completely different .

I tried a Japanese beer in a sushi restaurant a while back, it was actually gorgeous, it was red it looked like rose wine when poured into a glass, does anyone know the name of the beer?

Big Nasty

later12 wrote: »

I hate, hate, hate beer snobbery. It used to be the only beverage type to have escaped the clutches of the pedantic and the pretentious. Such was its very character and purpose - to be relaxed, laid back, not giving a f*ck.

Personally, yes I agree that there are a number of continental beers available on the market which are far more palatable than some of the old stock (Heineken, Carlsberg, Smithicks, Harp (lol), and so on).

But I'm also sick of having a trip to the pub with co-workers turning into an "Obscure Beers of the World Treasure Hunt" for the sake of it. It is getting slightly mad. I really don't care that your beer tastes "floral, with full, cherry aromas and the sharpness of pin to pull it all together. I don't care that this beer was produced by hand in one of the legendary small london breweries... I don't give a shit about how hard it is to find.

I just want beer that tastes nice, so we can move on and talk about something else. I really think some people are just discovering Headless Dog and Desperados and quite losing the run of themselves.

Bollox!

People are discovering proper beer as opposed to mass produced, over-priced muck. Why pay €5+ in a pub for a pint of something that you can buy a case of for €15 in Tesco?

You explore a little and you'll find out what real beer is all about!

Herb Powell

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Bollox!

People are discovering proper beer as opposed to mass produced, over-priced muck. Why pay €5+ in a pub for a pint of something that you can buy a case of for €15 in Tesco?

You explore a little and you'll find out what real beer is all about!

That's not really what he was getting at at all

MagicMarker

Pussies drink beer, men drink liquor.

Big Nasty

Herb Powell wrote: »

That's not really what he was getting at at all

I know yeah, but the thing is the rade is dying on its knees for the simple reason that nearly every pub provides the same thing, with nothing intersting to entice new / return business. He sees them as beer snobs, I see them as the people who will turn aound the industry through demand for better beer.

later12

MCMLXXV wrote: »

People are discovering proper beer as opposed to mass produced, over-priced muck. Why pay €5+ in a pub for a pint of something that you can buy a case of for €15 in Tesco?

This has nothing to do with Tesco, you can buy crates of the common beers in tesco, generally not the artisan or unusual beers I'm talking about.

And i have no problem with anyone preferring these beers at all. like I said, I prefer many of these newer beers myself. Just please don't subject others to a meandering treatise on beers of the world.

Big Nasty

later12 wrote: »

This has nothing to do with Tesco, you can buy crates of the common beers in tesco, generally not the artisan or unusual beers I'm talking about.

And i have no problem with anyone preferring these beers at all. like I said, I prefer many of these newer beers myself. Just please don't subject others to a meandering treatise on beers of the world.

20 years ago most restaurants would have max 12 wines on their menu. 4 French white, 4 French red, 1 of each Australian, a sparkling and a Champagne. The only coffee you could get was filter or instant, the only tea - Lyons. These days you have a whole range of choice and it's down to world travel and demand. Consequentially prices of same have come down due to increased competition. Same goes for beer.

Personally I would prefer not to drink in a pub with only main stream / mass produced beer but most of my friends think that's a load of toff and their taste buds aren't able for anything other than the p1ss that is served in most pubs. It's the people that you are criticising that will encourage publicans to provide an alternative to the sh1te we are subjected to in most pubs in Ireland.

Herb Powell

MCMLXXV wrote: »

I know yeah, but the thing is the rade is dying on its knees for the simple reason that nearly every pub provides the same thing, with nothing intersting to entice new / return business. He sees them as beer snobs, I see them as the people who will turn aound the industry through demand for better beer.

I'd be the same tbh, only drinking the usual stuff if there's nothing else there, because there is far better stuff. What I don't get is that there's a kind of attitude that I can't enjoy both the great beers and the average (which I do)

gurramok

Guinness would be the only mass produced drink in your usual pub that I could stomach as it tends to have higher quality standards than the other drinks. I can never drink those sweet fruity beers(except Chocolate stout!), I just don't have those type of taste buds.

Thanks to supermarkets and offies, they have introduced us to good foreign beers!

Big Nasty

Herb Powell wrote: »

I'd be the same tbh, only drinking the usual stuff if there's nothing else there, because there is far better stuff. What I don't get is that there's a kind of attitude that I can't enjoy both the great beers and the average (which I do)

I mostly drink Guinness in a pub and I think it's an exceptionally good beer when right. During the week I would drink Staroprammen at home and spend a little more on good Belgian Trappiste / Abbey beers at the weekend. With all the extra taxes and increases on mortgage rates we're down about €1000 a month on expendable income so my Staro consumption has been cut short. Tonight I'm drinking Prazsky, a Czech beer that is brewed by Staroprammen. It's far, far better than Heineken or Carlsberg and while not as good as Staroprammen it is €4 for 4 cans in my local Centra as opposed to €10 for 4 bottles of Staro.

Cheap beer can be good too!

Herb Powell

MCMLXXV wrote: »

I mostly drink Guinness in a pub and I think it's an exceptionally good beer when right. During the week I would drink Staroprammen at home and spend a little more on good Belgian Trappiste / Abbey beers at the weekend. With all the extra taxes and increases on mortgage rates we're down about €1000 a month on expendable income so my Staro consumption has been cut short. Tonight I'm drinking Prazsky, a Czech beer that is brewed by Staroprammen. It's far, far better than Heineken or Carlsberg and while not as good as Staroprammen it is €4 for 4 cans in my local Centra as opposed to €10 for 4 bottles of Staro.

Cheap beer can be good too!

Never knew that. Love Staropramen, must check it out.

entropi

The ones that agree with me are warm Bavaria, Carling, Leffe and Duvel. Somehow the rest taste like piss tbh (of those that I've tried).

Oh wait, I tried one that was something like 42% before, wasnt bad...it fcuked me up though, yet somehow I met a nice lady that night...hmmmm...

Fr D Maugire

Well a big part of the problem is a lot of mass produced beers are the most popular because they are the easiest to drink as they have little or no taste. In a country that is obsessed with getting drunk as oppossed to actually tasting beer, the variety that is easy to drink and gets you drunk quickly will always be the most popular which is why everywhere has their Heinken, Carlsberg, Bud etc.

I have never been a big drinker and would always have drank the regular stuff when younger. Then lived in the US where there is a lot of microbreweris and also fortunate enough to have lived in Belgium which is beer paradise. Naturally enough I was initially skeptical of all these strange beers but grew to appreciate them and now would rather have a good tasting beer over the regulars anyday.

I have organised beer tasting nights for friends but they mostly didnt like anything different as they are so stuck on their Heineken, Bulmers.

I do like a good wheat beer.
I drank Duvel in Belgium which only required 2 before I was on my ass.
Delerium Tremmins is another lovely Belgian beeer, Kwak too. I am not huge into the very strong Monastery beers or very hoppy beers. Redmonds in Ranelagh is a fantastic place for getting a great variety of beers.

In saying all that, I can still easily go six months without touching beer.

ronjo

Herb Powell wrote: »

Never knew that. Love Staropramen, must check it out.

If you like Staroprammen then try and get you hands on Krusovice. It and Budvar are much better Czech beers if you ask me.

thecornflake

I really pity the show offs who go on and on about "rare and fancy beer". Its all a cry for attention to show off how much better they are than everyone else.

Don't get me wrong, I like a good beer myself but I don't yack on and on and on and certainly don't let on I'm an expert. These people need to know that most people know about and also like good beer but don't feel the need to be snobby about it.

Sky King

thecornflake wrote: »

I really pity the show offs who go on and on about "rare and fancy beer". Its all a cry for attention to show off how much better they are than everyone else.

Or maybe they... um like unusual / rare / fancy beer?

thecornflake

Sky King wrote: »

Or maybe they... um like unusual / rare / fancy beer?

What ? Most people who drink beer like them, its no secret. Just because you (not Sky King personally) like it doesn't mean you gotta yack on and on like an expert in an effort to prove to people how superior your taste in fine beer is. :rolleyes:

Most of these beers are fantastic, but they're considered uncommon because they are purposefully not advertised much ect. This gives the so called "experts" the impression that they are drinking a very rare liquid that not many people know about. Sad is the word for them.

Take a look at beer Blue Moon, its owned and imported by Coors, but they don't advertise this because the pretentious people wouldn't drink it then.

Fr D Maugire

I would think beer is like food, the more you try, the more you will find you like or dislike. I wouldnt think discussing it is being snobbish although I am sure people treat it as such.

This sounds like the typical bitter Irish attitude of regarding anyone who is intersted in anything other than the accepted norm is weird or a show-off.

jay phelan

Desperados Tequila beer is deadly. I'd drink buckets of the stuff. I used to hate the taste of beer until I turned 17 and then it became my usual beverage on a night out.

thecornflake

Fr D Maugire wrote: »

This sounds like the typical bitter Irish attitude of regarding anyone who is intersted in anything other than the accepted norm is weird or a show-off.

However I would not think these types of beers are anything other than the accepted norm. A lot of people drink them, they just don't feel the need to go on about them.

dark crystal

Meh, I drink Budweiser or Tiger beer. I'm common like that

Would love a beer now, god damn it!

Big Nasty

thecornflake wrote: »

However I would not think these types of beers are anything other than the accepted norm. A lot of people drink them, they just don't feel the need to go on about them.

If you don't hear about them by people talking about them how would you even know they existed?

thecornflake

MCMLXXV wrote: »

If you don't hear about them by people talking about them how would you even know they existed?

Shelves in the offo, if I wanted to ask any questions I would ask the people who wok here as they know what they're talking about.

Sky King

Ha really? The guy in my local is like the dude off the savage eye. He would think I was a quare for buying anything other than guinness

He stays open till 12.30 though so I am not complaining

Big Nasty

thecornflake wrote: »

Shelves in the offo, if I wanted to ask any questions I would ask the people who wok here as they know what they're talking about.

What were ya lookin' for? Tsingtao?

thecornflake

MCMLXXV wrote: »

What were ya lookin' for? Tsingtao?

Wheely so solly.

thecornflake

Sky King wrote: »

Ha really? The guy in my local is like the dude off the savage eye. He would think I was a quare for buying anything other than guinness

He stays open till 12.30 though so I am not complaining

That's a pain in the arse too, when the people working there haven't got a clue. I was having a night in one evening and rang a local offo (it was one I hadn't rang before as we were in my gfs house). I asked him if he had fruli to which he replied he didn't know and went off to check. Came back saying he had erdinger. No i said fruli, he went off, came back on the blower and said no sorry, but we have hunky dorys. :rolleyes:

saa

Yes, give me all beer. I'll drink piss from a willy!