Aard wrote: » I've been a vocal supporter of a flat fare, but it's only since the introduction of the Leap card that I actually hear regular Joes talking about it. A few recent posts on here calling for the flat fare reminded me of it. I think now that the Leap card has doubled the number of fares available people are more confused than ever, and the balance seems to be turning in favour of extreme simplification. I've heard figures anywhere between €1 and €3 (with discounts for weekly/monthly for the more expensive). The wheels are turning on this one.
Stevek101 wrote: » If the driver is told once, how hard is that to remember? This information can easily be passed on to a passenger.
mystic86 wrote: » if travelling from leixlip to donabate you need to change at connolly, do i just swipe on at leixlip and swipe off at donabate and do nothing with the card at connolly? or what do I do?
KD345 wrote: » The example you give is a perfect case where the stages are confusing. That image, which appears on the drivers screen for Route 123, suggests stage 71 is St. James' Hospital. Unfortunatly it doesn't say which stop it is. There are two stops in the hospital, so which is it? Just to highlight this even further, if you were to examine stage 71 in this area, you will notice that for routes 13 and 40, this stop is in fact on St. James' Street itself, outside the hospital grounds. It's this type of ambiguity which needs to be addressed before we can accept that the stage system is workable.
Stevek101 wrote: » In fairness that is not really an excuse. 13,40 and 123 are all different routes. A bit of individual route training would remove any of these issues. Either way this confusion will be removed completely when it is all done by GPS.
KD345 wrote: » Even isolating Route 123, which stop in St. James' Hospital is stage 71? And how is a driver and passenger supposed to know?
KD345 wrote: » Which stop is stage 71 though? You say they currently appear clearly on the drivers screen. I disagree. Why isn't this information available right now for passengers? Every stop is numbered, so why are the stages not clearer to passengers?
mmcn90 wrote: » If they are going to continue with this stage nonsense, why not change the stage description to stop number, thus removing any confusion or argument. Just to give an example, on the 130, stage 21, heading towards the city centre, is St. Joseph's School (in this case, not that confusing), why not change this to Stage 21 - Stop Number 614, this removes any confusion from where each stage begins. Or, just bring in a flat fare!!!!!:rolleyes:
goingnowhere wrote: » Irish Rail doesn't allow epurse smartcards at Kilcoole, annuals only
Irish Rail wrote: What is Smart Card? The Smart Card is used to store travel credit that is deducted as you travel by rail within the Short Hop Zone as far as Balbriggan, Maynooth, Kilcoole and Hazelhatch. Why should I switch to Smart Card? · Faster – no more queuing for tickets as you can pay in advance · Easier –they are reusable – it can be topped up when you need to · Cheaper – fares are cheaper than regular single cash fares · Safer – the balance can be protected once Smart Card is registered Products available ·Adult E-Purse -E-Purse works in a similar way to mobile phone credit. Everytime you tag on and tag off the cost of the journey is deducted from your card. · Schoolchild & Scholar –The Schoolchild (Under 16) and Scholar (16-18) cards ffer children travelling by rail to school discounted fares. · These products can be topped by via a ticket vending machine in your station or online.
crushproof wrote: » I've been overcharged twice, charged full fare on the DART because the tag off machines at my local station weren't working. Got in touch with customer service and with in a few days I had received a refund, seems they have to go through Irish Rail before approving a refund which is why it takes a few days. Also, another good thing.... some kind randomer must be topping up my card, I've received €15 in the past few days....makes no sense at all!
Carawaystick wrote: » not according to https://smartcard.irishrail.ie/smartcard2/pages/welcomeAnonymousIV.jsf
Victor wrote: » Well, more like "Stage 21 - Stop 0614 - Fairview, Pedestrian Footbridge
SerialComplaint wrote: » The Luas guys tell me that "A credit card cannot be used twice within a 7 day period" for fraud protection reasons. This is a real barrier for legitimate customers. I brought the family into town last Saturday, and used my credit card to buy tickets for the family, while using my own Leap card. On Monday, my Leap balance was low, so I needed to top up - but my credit card was declined, with no explanation why. I had to get onto the customer services folk to find out why it was declined. This seems like a very restrictive limitation to me, and is creating a barrier for legitimate customers.
robd wrote: » Pretty standard fraud protection policy. Most people have at least 2 cards (credit card, debit card) and also cash. Most people won't need to topup more than once in a week. Thus it is only a minor inconvenience. Your problem is what's known as an edge case. Vendors don't advertise fraud protection rules for obvious reasons.
The-Rigger wrote: » Really wish they didn't require you to have a capital letter in your password, just not necessary and has already resulted in my account being locked and having to call them. I can see it happening again.
mmcn90 wrote: » Ahhh, that's why my accounts locked, drunkenly forgetting about the capital letter, makes sense now. On a serious note, there's a few companies, including Apple doing it, although it does increase the amount of combinations of passwords, it is a tad unnecessary.
The-Rigger wrote: » It's a leapcard, not fort knox. It's the only reason my account was locked, having to call to get it reset is a pain in the hole too.
Tarabuses wrote: » How long does it usually take to update Leap History for a DART journey?
Dravokivich wrote: » Your card is up to date, so Luas TVM / Payzone / Dublin Bus can give print outs on the spot. Won't generally be able to see them on website account until the following morning.
almalahide wrote: » Why did I buy one? I only use Dublin bus once a day used to use 19euro travel ten but I presumed the leap card prices would be the same LOL only thinking about it now i have been paying 50 cent more the last few weeks! So there goes the card till the prices go up BIZZARE!
KD345 wrote: » The travel 90 ticket offers excellent value for money, so you're wise to continue using it. Hopefully a similar ticket will be incorporated into the Leap card sometime soon.
tallpaul wrote: » Do travel 90 tickets have an expiry date? I don't mean the 90 minute bit;) but rather that once you start using them, do they all have to be used by a certain date?
bridgepeople wrote: » I am an occasional Dublin bus user. I use the bus once or twice a week typically. I got a leap card at the end of December so that I could avail of the lower fares (relative to cash) and also so I don't have to worry about exact change. I've noticed the last few times I've got the bus that very few people have switched over to the leap card. Many/most people on my route who paid in cash in 2011 paid €1.85, including myself. I am now paying €1.95 using my leap card and thought I was being clever saving myself 20c. However, I have since noticed that most cash payers are now paying €1.90 instead of €2.15 which they probably should. My guess is that is a definite trend and that if Dublin Bus did an analysis of its fares at the end of January vs 2011, it would see that the percentage paying the stages 8-13 fare has gone down significantly from 2011 and the percentage paying the stages 4-7 fare has risen. Because the drivers don't enforce correct fares (how can they to be fair?)and the fare structure is overly complicated and opaque, travellers are free to continue paying the wrong fare. So frankly not only would I be better using a travel 90 card rather than leap, I'd actually be better off paying cash and underdeclaring the length of my route!
bridgepeople wrote: » So frankly not only would I be better using a travel 90 card rather than leap, I'd actually be better off paying cash and underdeclaring the length of my route!
For City Centre, short (1 –3 stages), medium (4 –7 stages) and long (8–13 stages) journeys tell the driver your destination and hold your Leap Card to the target on the driver’s ticket machine and the correct fare will be deducted from your Travel Credit. For longer journeys (over 13 stages) use the Leap Card Validator on the right hand side as you enter the bus and the flat fare will be deducted from your Travel Credit.http://www.dublinbus.ie/Fares--Tickets/Leapcard/
mambo wrote: » For City Centre, short (1 –3 stages), medium (4 –7 stages) and long (8–13 stages) journeys tell the driver your destination and hold your Leap Card to the target on the driver’s ticket machine and the correct fare will be deducted from your Travel Credit. For longer journeys (over 13 stages) use the Leap Card Validator on the right hand side as you enter the bus and the flat fare will be deducted from your Travel Credit.http://www.dublinbus.ie/Fares--Tickets/Leapcard/ If you use the Leap Card Validator on the right hand side, does it always deduct the fare for over 13 stages (€2.40), or is it smart enough to only deduct the fare from where you are getting on to the final stop on the route (which could be as little as €1.25)?
Mark200 wrote: » The first one. The machine doesn't know where you're getting on
