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What Constitutes a Sport in Your Opinion?

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This is derived from a thread on Darts currently doing the rounds on AH. While discussing Darts itself, posters began debating on whether or not Darts is even a sport at all.

Do you believe it's a sport or is it simply a pub game?!

Does the fact it's on Sky Sports indicate it is a sport, after all, WWE and aerobics are on said channel and they are hardly sports?

Does it take an 'athlete' to compete in a sport? Where does this leave Race car drivers, golfers and bowlers?

I'd like to hear a few opinions on this.

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ascanbe

Ronnie Raygun wrote: »

Ah c'mon, do you have irony in/on your planet/country?

Bullsh..i mean Bullseye.

Chuck Stone

LighterGuy wrote: »

But professional wrestling is a sport.

'Pro' wrestling is a ****ing soap show with muscley men who'd get battered by real fighters.

Ronnie Raygun wrote: »

Sorry to intrude in your world dorks/depressed people.

Welcome aboard.

TanG411

People have different opinions on sport. What you should look at are official sports councils. If they have it down as a sport, then it's a sport.

Plus Taylor came 2nd in the Sports Personality of the Year last year.

Temptamperu

JohnP199 wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Don't tell me you're one of those who thinks that all a race car driver does is sit down and turn a steering wheel? F1 is one of the mostly physically demanding sports which requires drivers to be a the peak of physically fitness. I dont think there's too many footballers out there who I fancy to win if up against Jenson Button in a tri-athlon.

I dont even like sports but ive heard driving over those colored strips at the corners is like taking a kick to the chest, at 150 mph thats demanding.

Muff_Daddy

Sport isn't just about athleticism IMO, there are many factors to consider, such as skill, concentration, dedication and mental toughness - 4 traites that are needed to reach the pinnacle of darts. Anyone who thinks hitting treble 20 after treble 20 is comparable to tiddleywinks hasn't got a breeze.

Omackeral wrote: »

This is derived from a thread on Darts currently doing the rounds on AH. While discussing Darts itself, posters began debating on whether or not Darts is even a sport at all.

Do you believe it's a sport or is it simply a pub game?!

Does the fact it's on Sky Sports indicate it is a sport, after all, WWE and aerobics are on said channel and they are hardly sports?

Does it take an 'athlete' to compete in a sport? Where does this leave Race car drivers, golfers and bowlers?

I'd like to hear a few opinions on this.

Believe it or not, as sports people go, F1 Drivers are as fit as they come. Some races like Malaysia or Bahrain, they have to sit in their cars in 50 degree heat, wearing a helmet and fireproof overalls. They can lose up to 5 kilos in weight in these races, so they have to be conditioned to cope with this, and still drive around at 300kph. Most F1 drivers do triathlons and marathons in between races, not just for fun, but because thay have to.

Temptamperu

Anything you train for at the pub is not a sport. Darts is not a sport, its a Klingon hunting lesson :pac:

EdenHazard

pro wrestling is more like an art form than a sport.

darts is a game, not a sport, same with snooker.

ascanbe

ThinksAmoral wrote: »

People have different opinions on sport. What you should look at are official sports councils. If they have it down as a sport, then it's a sport.

Plus Taylor came 2nd in the Sports Personality of the Year last year.

What difference does it make if someone sees something as being a sport or not being a sport; its still going to be the same thing no matter how it's labelled.
There is the whole thing, i suppose, of the practitioners/organisers of certain games/disciplines wanting to recognised as a 'sport' in order to qualify for government grants/perhaps become an event in the Olympics etc.
But on a purely theoritical level it makes no difference; a thing is still the same thing no matter what you call it.
'A rose is a rose is a rose..' to quote/paraphrase Gertrude Stein.

LighterGuy

Omackeral wrote: »

No. No it's not. I know its physical, its damn physical. The bumps those lads take are breathtaking. I've watched Pro Wrestling my whole life and consider myself a big fan of it but it is not a sport!! It's predetermined.

You cant bet on it. Actually maybe that's the answer I'm looking for...

If you bring competitiveness into it. I know what you mean. Since its fake it doesnt have that. While all sports do. (it is funny about wrestling tho :P the real competitive nature comes out backstage :P )

But on the other side of the coin is if darts, poker, snooker and even chess can be classed (or argued

) as sports? ... wrestling ranks more of a sport than them automatcially.

Chuck Stone

EdenHazard wrote: »

pro wrestling is more like an art form than a sport.

Jesus tap dancing Christ the concept of art is looser than a porn stars box these days.

'Pro' wrestlers are just actors with steroid induced muscles who excite children and feeble-minded adults.

Father Damo

UFC isnt a sport. Although it is funny to hear how hyped its fans get in defending it as if it has any type of merit, it is somewhat concerning that underpants playground fighting that 7 years ago was only watched by burberry wearing illiterate scrotes has now become somewhat mainstream and is even threatening real sports like boxing.

Still, I have a feeling it is a fad and will die off eventually.

Red21

Race walking, that has to be the craziest event ever to be considered a sport.

Chuck Stone

LighterGuy wrote: »

But on the other side of the coin is if darts, poker, snooker and even chess can be classed (or argued ) as sports? ... wrestling ranks more of a sport than them automatcially.

Wrestling is for little children. It's muscle-men panto for morons when adults like it.

You like it don't you?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Wrestling does classify as a sport at amateur level. Pro Wrestling falls under the sports entertainment heading, the results are predetermined but your kidding yourself if you don't think that high levels of athletic performance and pain are involved.

LighterGuy

Chuck Stone wrote: »

'Pro' wrestling is a ****ing soap show with muscley men who'd get battered by real fighters.

Yes. Generally you are right

(exception of Brock Lensar. He has proved himself)

But that doesnt take away from the nature of what they do. Pretty much a wrestler is just a stuntman. Pretending to fight, bumping, feeding etc etc. But its still physical.

If one wants to argue how darts, poker or chess is a sport then go for it. But how can someone factual argue that the latter sports require the same or more physical aspects?

No one is saying wrestling is on par with MMA or boxing or anything like that. But give its due at least.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Get in a ring and take a few bumps, let somebody work stiff on you and come back to me and tell me its fake.

LighterGuy

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Wrestling is for little children. It's muscle-men panto for morons when adults like it.

You like it don't you?

Well Mister Chuck Stone,
Take a look at this:

Although wrestling is fake, this injury isn't. These are the physical dangers of wrestling. But you are probably thinking this was a once off freak accident right? ... I could post ten more examples if you like.

ascanbe

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Get in a ring and take a few bumps, let somebody work stiff on you and come back to me and tell me its fake.

Never was into wrestling, but here's an example of a couple of great athletes from another sport guesting in a wrestling match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN2ffgG9ANM

Whether WWF/WWE style should be regarded as a 'sport' of not, personally it think the phrase 'sports entertainment' fits it, there's no denying that its top practioners are real athletes.
This whole discussion also reminds me a documentary i watched where Louis Theroux questioned some lunatic involved in wrestling about its authenticity and then later made the mistake of turning up and agreeing to take part in a training session under his stewardship:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMoeAx0HWQc

The pain begins at about the 9:30 minute mark.

wilkie2006

Kojak wrote: »

Is chess a sport? It requires stamina in regards concentration, much like darts, but damn all physical exertion.

I'd call chess a pursuit. For me, a sport is something where physical exertion comes before anything cerebral.

Although horse racing isn't a sport; it's a vehicle for gambling.

LighterGuy

ascanbe wrote: »

The pain begins at about the 9:30 minute mark.

Haha. Remember watching this years ago

'The Sarge' really did give the (well what can be classed as now) developmental guys loads :pac:

DEFTLEFTHAND

LighterGuy wrote: »

Haha. Remember watching this years ago
'The Sarge' really did give the (well what can be classed as now) developmental guys loads :pac:

Ya I say alot of supposed 'tough guys' went in there thinking they could hack it, but it found out the hard way they couldn't.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Father Damo wrote: »

UFC isnt a sport.

It certainly is not! MMA on the otherhand, most certainly is. Educate yourself.

Why don't you believe it's a sport?

kowloon

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

A game becomes a sport when you compete.

+1, it's all about competition.

Dictionary seems to imply it needs to raise a sweat, not sure where that leaves Chess or F1:

1.
a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
b. A particular form of this activity.
2. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
3. An active pastime; recreation.

amacachi

kowloon wrote: »

Dictionary seems to imply it needs to raise a sweat, not sure where that leaves... F1

LOL.

wilkie2006

ArtSmart wrote: »

sad. nothing worse than an onlooker pussy.

Or a passive pussy, for that matter.

AskMyChocolate

If you can drink a beer while you're doing it, it's not a sport.:pac:

AskMyChocolate

brummytom wrote: »

Anything that requires doing something that doesn't need to be done.

I hate sport.

And finally the mystery of Brum's virginity becomes all too clear.

Although, it doesn't explain why he plays the accordion.

Zebra3

What Constitutes a Sport in Your Opinion?

Riding around on horseback chasing a fox with a pack of bloodthirtsy hounds. :rolleyes:

Pride Fighter

Father Damo wrote: »

UFC isnt a sport. Although it is funny to hear how hyped its fans get in defending it as if it has any type of merit, it is somewhat concerning that underpants playground fighting that 7 years ago was only watched by burberry wearing illiterate scrotes has now become somewhat mainstream and is even threatening real sports like boxing.

Still, I have a feeling it is a fad and will die off eventually.

You obviously dont have a clue about the sport of mixed martial arts, which is one of the most athletic sports around.

AskMyChocolate

JohnP199 wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Don't tell me you're one of those who thinks that all a race car driver does is sit down and turn a steering wheel? F1 is one of the mostly physically demanding sports which requires drivers to be a the peak of physically fitness. I dont think there's too many footballers out there who I fancy to win if up against Jenson Button in a tri-athlon.

Do you remember, many years ago, there was a tv programme called superstars? It involved sports-stars partaking in several different sports events. It took off in a lot of different countries and the winners competed in international superstars.

Anyway, one year, our bloke was a lad from the army, and Jodi Schechter beat him in the fitness test. They were a mile ahead of the rest.

But, our lad got scammed, cos he was doing his squat thrusts properly, but Schechter had invented a sliding method. Shocking.

There'd still only have been the two of them in it.