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DCG Project 2012

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Thread for all discussion on this year's DCG project. :pac:

Higher Level Brief - perfume/aftershave bottle

Ordinary Level Brief - desk tidy

So, what do ye think?

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gar.ie

how do you get your output 3 and 7 onto your pdf file that goes on the cd?

mcpaddington

Can anyone give me any ideas for output 7, I'm really unsure as to what I should put on it

n0ak

No man Im talking about output 7 thanks any ways

GarIT

n0ak wrote: »

Could u guys tell me please what I do for second sheet on Powerpoint Im doing perfume bottle compared to the Guitar.. On the 1st sheet I have written and explained everything what are the similarities of the guitars parts reffering to the perfume bottle.. Just wondering what could I do on 2nd sheet what to write ?

You must compare two current or at least recent aftershaves. You can't compare an aftershave to something else. As for the second page be creative and find some other way to compare them.

QueenofSpades

Hey,

Having trouble with finishing some aspects of Solid Works, I need to slice a cyclinder at a sloping angle Any Suggestions? Any good sites for Solidworks tips?

Also, what is output 7 about? I dont understand whats to be on it (and neither does my teacher):(
:eek:

n0ak

Do U know guys how to get a red bottom like for this perfume bottle on SOLIDWORKS! ? :O
http://www.valentineperfume.com/product_thumbnail_images/t_23378.jpg
Thanks a mill

I will appreciate any answer

GarIT

QueenofSpades wrote: »

Hey,

Having trouble with finishing some aspects of Solid Works, I need to slice a cyclinder at a sloping angle Any Suggestions? Any good sites for Solidworks tips?

Also, what is output 7 about? I dont understand whats to be on it (and neither does my teacher):(
:eek:

Select the front plane, or any plane that is vertical in relation to your bottle, draw a diagonal line at whatever angle you need to, then make then make a square around the bit you need to cut off and do an extrude cut "through all".

For output 7 you explain why you decided to make the bottle you did in output 9

tazmanian

n0ak wrote: »

No man Im talking about output 7 thanks any ways

I'm also talking about output 7. Output 7 is where you put this stuff.
see..

It says "possible solutions" so that's where you could do sketching on other musical instruments.

Here's a guide to Output 7 from t4.ie

Output 7 Guide

n0ak wrote: »

Do U know guys how to get a red bottom like for this perfume bottle on SOLIDWORKS! ? :O
http://www.valentineperfume.com/product_thumbnail_images/t_23378.jpg
Thanks a mill I will appreciate any answer

I don't think you can

Out of interest, what did you do for the logo?

GarIT

gar.ie wrote: »

how do you get your output 3 and 7 onto your pdf file that goes on the cd?

Scan them, just like every other page. You don't want to risk carrying the history of the word or powerpoint file over to the pdf and then having your exam cancelled.

n0ak

tazmanian wrote: »

I don't think you can I made that bottle too for my Part A and just left it a slightly transparent red. Out of interest, what did you do for the logo and LACOSTE title? Decal?

I got the decal at the start but each time you go on SW u got to click the Photoworks Icon(tab) .. I got rid of it because thought that examiners ain't be able to see it !!! Also the decal is not visible on photoview 360 so tham means photo realistic image will be without logo "brand" on the bottle.. I cant complain the bottle I have done in my opinion it looks gr8.. http://postimage.org/image/3k1nbq9rv/
Sorry for posting Image again..:pac:

Also see where it says in the left side midle bottle cap and one red + green dot like a traffic light why its like that .. When I open solidworks it always gives me this option to rebuild or dont why its like that ?

tazmanian

n0ak wrote: »

Also see where it says in the left side midle bottle cap and one red + green dot like a traffic light why its like that .. When I open solidworks it always gives me this option to rebuild or dont why its like that ?

Not sure really, I think it might be telling you that part is open in another window, which means that any edits you make to the part in the assembly will carry over to the part itself, and any changes you make to the part open in another widow will carry over to the assembly. I made this conclusion because a traffic light also appears next to your "ExplodedView" in the sidebar, indicating that it is currently open. As for the rebuild thing, I'm sure if I ever bothered to read the message underneath it I'd know what it was talking about, but frankly I've always just hit the OK button whenever I saw it. It's always worked for me so far

gar.ie

GarIT wrote: »

Scan them, just like every other page. You don't want to risk carrying the history of the word or powerpoint file over to the pdf and then having your exam cancelled.

I dont have an a3 scanner and theres not one in school

tazmanian

gar.ie wrote: »

I dont have an a3 scanner and theres not one in school

Your school doesn't have one A3 scanner? Ouch! Maybe export your Solidworks files to PDF using a "print to PDF" program like PrimoPDF then export the pages from your your Microsoft Word or PowerPoint file which do not include any sketches to be done (i.e. your title page, Photo-realistic page) You can export these to PDF by simply clicking "save as" and then selected "PDF" in the file format section and finally clicking save.

As for the pages which have sketches.... hmm, maybe scan the individual sketched part of the sheet using an A4 scanner (unless you live in the stone age, I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a single A4 scanner, literally every printer nowadays has one), load the images onto the computer and insert them into your Microsoft Word document and then export to PDF.

Once your finished making all your PDFs, paste them all together in the correct order using PrimoPDF and then export your final PDF.

As for your worry over the file carrying any history with it, or to use the correct term "meta data": Meta data can easily be altered or removed entirely from any file. I'm not sure if PrimoPDF has meta data features but I did use a program a few years ago for editing PDFs called NitroPDF which could alter or remove any information stored with the file to your heart's desire.

Mayo_Boy

Would examiners be very specific with headings in the project? like instead of possible solutions would it be okay to call it design ideas?
Another thing, what happens if one was to go over the 14 page limit? Also what type of cd are we meant to use for the solidworks files and scanned portfolio
:pac:

mcpaddington

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Another thing, what happens if one was to go over the 14 page limit?

You would only be marked for the first 14 pages. Technically you are allowed 16 pages, 14 of the project, a front to show your project, and a back for references.

gar.ie

tazmanian wrote: »

Your school doesn't have one A3 scanner? Ouch! Maybe export your Solidworks files to PDF using a "print to PDF" program like PrimoPDF then export the pages from your your Microsoft Word or PowerPoint file which do not include any sketches to be done (i.e. your title page, Photo-realistic page) You can export these to PDF by simply clicking "save as" and then selected "PDF" in the file format section and finally clicking save.

As for the pages which have sketches.... hmm, maybe scan the individual sketched part of the sheet using an A4 scanner (unless you live in the stone age, I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a single A4 scanner, literally every printer nowadays has one), load the images onto the computer and insert them into your Microsoft Word document and then export to PDF.

Once your finished making all your PDFs, paste them all together in the correct order using PrimoPDF and then export your final PDF.

As for your worry over the file carrying any history with it, or to use the correct term "meta data": Meta data can easily be altered or removed entirely from any file. I'm not sure if PrimoPDF has meta data features but I did use a program a few years ago for editing PDFs called NitroPDF which could alter or remove any information stored with the file to your heart's desire.

I dont think using an a3 scanner will be possible, what about taking a picture of them using a digital camera?

Kerry man

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Would examiners be very specific with headings in the project? like instead of possible solutions would it be okay to call it design ideas?
Another thing, what happens if one was to go over the 14 page limit? Also what type of cd are we meant to use for the solidworks files and scanned portfolio
:pac:

The headings dont have to be that specific at all, once they just are relevant and make sense.
For going over the 14 pages I think you get docked marks if its over or under the 14 pages. i think u just use a blank dvd like one of the recording ones

Dan_oC94

Lads I've done my entire part A on Solidworks on my home laptop

I did the 1-Million bottle and I spent the entire November midterm doing it.. what will I do? My teacher doesn't know much about it, but is my 3D model gonna be accepted and marked etc? I put a huge effort into it!

pajero12

Dan_oC94 wrote: »

Lads I've done my entire part A on Solidworks on my home laptop I did the 1-Million bottle and I spent the entire November midterm doing it.. what will I do? My teacher doesn't know much about it, but is my 3D model gonna be accepted and marked etc? I put a huge effort into it!

Awww mate

it has to be done on a school computer, you might be lucky enough that they dont check your disc but if they do and they notice, you'll be docked badly!!

tazmanian

pajero12 wrote: »

Awww mate it has to be done on a school computer, you might be lucky enough that they dont check your disc but if they do and they notice, you'll be docked badly!!

Not just docked badly, probably something much more serious like an "investigation" or something like that.

Dan_oC94 wrote: »

Lads I've done my entire part A on Solidworks on my home laptop I did the 1-Million bottle and I spent the entire November midterm doing it.. what will I do? My teacher doesn't know much about it, but is my 3D model gonna be accepted and marked etc? I put a huge effort into it!

Hey , think of it this way, the hardest part about making the Solidworks model is trying to figure out how you're going to make it, once you know how you can fly through it. So if you want to avoid any chance of losing 40% of your DCG Leaving Cert go into school and replicate the project you made at home on the school computer. Seeing as you know what features to use and the likes of that, I'd say you'll be able to get the whole lot done in 3 hours, depending on the amount of detail.

EDIT: Maybe even ask your DCG teacher if you can bring your laptop in one day so that you can refer to it while making the project on the school computer if you forget any of the measurements. Seriously, it's nothing to worry about, just get really stuck in during your DCG classes between now and next week and you should get it done, perhaps even with some time to spare.

Irish94

Someone help me!! I can't open my main part for my concept, it says 'unexpected file format'. All my other parts will open but not this one. Please what do i do?

mcpaddington

Irish94 wrote: »

Someone help me!! I can't open my main part for my concept, it says 'unexpected file format'. All my other parts will open but not this one. Please what do i do?

It might be corrupt, do you have a backup of it ?

Irish94

mcpaddington wrote: »

It might be corrupt, do you have a backup of it ?

It was on my memory stick

I'm doing it out again now in school

Dan_oC94

tazmanian wrote: »

Not just docked badly, probably something much more serious like an "investigation" or something like that.

Hey , think of it this way, the hardest part about making the Solidworks model is trying to figure out how you're going to make it, once you know how you can fly through it. So if you want to avoid any chance of losing 40% of your DCG Leaving Cert go into school and replicate the project you made at home on the school computer. Seeing as you know what features to use and the likes of that, I'd say you'll be able to get the whole lot done in 3 hours, depending on the amount of detail.

EDIT: Maybe even ask your DCG teacher if you can bring your laptop in one day so that you can refer to it while making the project on the school computer if you forget any of the measurements. Seriously, it's nothing to worry about, just get really stuck in during your DCG classes between now and next week and you should get it done, perhaps even with some time to spare.

Really man? Ok.. I don't mean to be a cheat or anything but with just one week left, would it be possible to open a solidwork part in school, copy all the features on the left, and paste them in a new empty part, and save. Will that come up on the examiners check as completed in school?

thanks I really appreciate this.. don't wanna get a D2* like a guy did last year. I'm not the only one in my class who has solidworks done at home! Uh-oh ... the other idea wouldnt be so bad.. bringing my laptop to school and redrawing. Cant believe this

GarIT

n0ak wrote: »

Also see where it says in the left side midle bottle cap and one red + green dot like a traffic light why its like that .. When I open solidworks it always gives me this option to rebuild or dont why its like that ?

The traffic lights mean something isn't built properly. Where the dimensions inputted isn't physically possible. A simple example would be if you had a square where one side was one size but another side was a different size. That couldn't work because its not its not a square if it has two different sizes. If you look through it youmight be able to work out the problem.

gar.ie wrote: »

I dont have an a3 scanner and theres not one in school

The school is supposed to have one, the pages are supposed to be scanned in school.

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Would examiners be very specific with headings in the project? like instead of possible solutions would it be okay to call it design ideas?
Another thing, what happens if one was to go over the 14 page limit? Also what type of cd are we meant to use for the solidworks files and scanned portfolio
:pac:

Not 100% sure on this but I've seen a good few projects that got As and some of them had titles that arent in the breif.

gar.ie wrote: »

I dont think using an a3 scanner will be possible, what about taking a picture of them using a digital camera?

Suppose it would, but you'd have to convert them to pfd, the scans we are doing are super high quality, they are taking us about 15 mins of scanning per page, so you camera pic wouldn't be anywhere near that.

Dan_oC94 wrote: »

Lads I've done my entire part A on Solidworks on my home laptop I did the 1-Million bottle and I spent the entire November midterm doing it.. what will I do? My teacher doesn't know much about it, but is my 3D model gonna be accepted and marked etc? I put a huge effort into it!

If they don't check you should be fine. If they do, from what I've been told you whole exam could be cancelled, including the written paper in june because it is cheating on a state exam they may decide to cancel your entire leaving cert and ban you from repeating for 7 years. You teacher signs a declaration to say that you did the project 100% in class under their supervision. I don't know what implications it could have for the teacher but tampering with state exams is a criminal offence so the teacher could be in major trouble for allowing you to do that.

GarIT

Irish94 wrote: »

It was on my memory stick I'm doing it out again now in school

Does the school not have a backup? Our school keeps 7 backups of everything we do. Ask your teacher and see what they say.

GarIT

Dan_oC94 wrote: »

Really man? Ok.. I don't mean to be a cheat or anything but with just one week left, would it be possible to open a solidwork part in school, copy all the features on the left, and paste them in a new empty part, and save. Will that come up on the examiners check as completed in school? thanks I really appreciate this.. don't wanna get a D2* like a guy did last year. I'm not the only one in my class who has solidworks done at home! Uh-oh ... the other idea wouldnt be so bad.. bringing my laptop to school and redrawing. Cant believe this

If you copy the features over into a new solidworks file it will show that it was made in school.

spurious

People in the SEC can read boards.

tazmanian

Dan_oC94 wrote: »

Really man? Ok.. I don't mean to be a cheat or anything but with just one week left, would it be possible to open a solidwork part in school, copy all the features on the left, and paste them in a new empty part, and save. Will that come up on the examiners check as completed in school? thanks I really appreciate this.. don't wanna get a D2* like a guy did last year. I'm not the only one in my class who has solidworks done at home! Uh-oh ... the other idea wouldnt be so bad.. bringing my laptop to school and redrawing. Cant believe this

I'm not sure if you can copy features over, BUT you can copy sketches from one file to another, and I have done so occasionally. Here's the thing though, I'd be guessing you used Solidworks 2011 to make your project on your laptop, if the version of SW on your school computer is still in 2010 or 2009 then you will not even be able to open your work on the school computers.

Mayo_Boy

All the solidworks needs be done on the 2009 version according to the brief