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Scotrail No Ticket, **** on a Train

k.p.h

Not sure if this has been posted already, but a search has thrown up nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKKADFIEX84

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073660/Big-Man-Scotrail-ticket-video-Alan-Pollock-throws-fare-dodger-Sam-Main-train.html

Kinda throws up the ol conundrum, if you verbally assault someone are they allowed physically assault you.. :cool:

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MugMugs

Looks like the big fella "went off the rails"

.................. I'll get my coat.

ballsymchugh

big guy is a legend.

it was either him or wait for the transport police to do the exact same thing.

joshrogan

If he refuses to leave the train after a verbal warning there is no other option other than to physically remove him, he shouldn't have resisted.

Voodoomelon

He hadn't paid and had no right to be there. One way or another, he was going to be physically removed by someone. Good enough for the little sh1te.

TeddyTedson

Big man to the rescue.
Fair play to that old man for being protestant about it.

Ghandee

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Big man to the rescue.
Fair play to that old man for being protestant about it.

Ah, so that's what KeithAFC looks like!:pac:

starbelgrade

That "**** on a Train" video lacks a decent script, any real build up in tension & the plot line is dreary.

It isn't a patch on "Snakes on a Plane".

amacca

k.p.h wrote: »

Kinda throws up the ol conundrum, if you verbally assault someone are they allowed physically assault you.. :cool:

Why that's not a conundrum at all my dear fellow

I see no difficulty or confusion here....................If someone verbally assaults me then I am entitled to beat seven shades of sh1t out of them at any time in a ten year period after the event without so much as a notice period being required and at the most inopportune of times for them (eg: a daughters christening, an endoscope appointment etc).................that is the law.

MrStuffins

joshrogan wrote: »

If he refuses to leave the train after a verbal warning there is no other option other than to physically remove him, he shouldn't have resisted.

I'm not sure if you're on the right track, but it's certainly an interesting train of thought.

TeddyTedson

Ghandee wrote: »

Ah, so that's what KeithAFC looks like!:pac:

persistent is the word I was looking for

Logical Fallacy

k.p.h wrote: »

Kinda throws up the ol conundrum, if you verbally assault someone are they allowed physically assault you.. :cool:

There should be a law where you can throw some digs if someone uses "fighting words".

MrStuffins

Big Guy tried to be a hero. Worked this time, but exactly how a lot of these dues end up with a knife in their stomach!

Fair play and all, but could've ended in tears had it been another little scrote!

Gordon

Ironically the person that filmed the footage could be in a bit of hot water as you aren't allowed to use cameras on the trains in Scotland. At least that's what a photographer mate told me, but it could just apply to professional filming/photography.

Chuck Stone

Bus Train ****.

Agent Smith

Whats the story with people Recording Public Transport all of a sudden?

[Deleted User]

I must be seeing a different video to everyone else. I see a conductor with an attitude and a bully who should have minded his own business. Sure, the teenager was rude, but throwing him off the train was totally uncalled for. He didn't deserve to be physically assaulted.

amacca

Agent Smith wrote: »

Whats the story with people Recording Public Transport all of a sudden?

the "public" are no longer the homogenous mass they used to be

interspersed there are delightfully eccentric characters we have all come to know and love but the dedicated anthropological researcher must remain vigilant to capture footage to back up his/her theories to the point of keeping the cameras rolling at all times

BBDBB

IzzyWizzy wrote: »

I must be seeing a different video to everyone else. I see a conductor with an attitude and a bully who should have minded his own business. Sure, the teenager was rude, but throwing him off the train was totally uncalled for. He didn't deserve to be physically assaulted.

He hadnt paid his fare, so he didnt deserve to be on the train

Donal Og O Baelach

Well, maybe he didn't have the cash for the fare bit was chancing it. Nothing wrong with that. He can't complain when he gets caught though, except to see that there is a nice warm train with many empty seats going across the hills and rivers to where he needs to go, and he isn't aloowed on cos he can't afford it.

[Deleted User]

BBDBB wrote: »

He hadnt paid his fare, so he didnt deserve to be on the train

It wasn't the big guy's business. He had no right no throw him off. Definitely no right to throw him off and cause him to cut his face open.

Dartz

Perth?

Does that train go all the way to Australia?

Absurdum

fawking students :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::mad::mad::mad:

BBDBB

IzzyWizzy wrote: »

It wasn't the big guy's business. He had no right no throw him off. Definitely no right to throw him off and cause him to cut his face open.

The Big Guy was a fare paying passenger who had watched the escalation of the dispute beyond what the camera captured and was Id suggest motivated to get the train moving as soon as possible so he and others could continue on their journey. I think that makes it his business. It was his choice to throw the guy off, just as it was the fare dodgers choice to break the law and then get awkward with a conductor trying to do his job.

I have little sympathy for the fare dodger

ballsymchugh

IzzyWizzy wrote: »

I must be seeing a different video to everyone else. I see a conductor with an attitude and a bully who should have minded his own business. Sure, the teenager was rude, but throwing him off the train was totally uncalled for. He didn't deserve to be physically assaulted.

that train was going nowhere with that guy on it. it would've waited at the station for the british transport police to come along and do exactly what the big man did. i've been on a train twice where it slowed down close to the next station so that the police could be there to take someone off it.
the sooner that guy was off the train, the quicker everyone else could get going.

Jimmy Garlic

IzzyWizzy wrote: »

I must be seeing a different video to everyone else. I see a conductor with an attitude and a bully who should have minded his own business. Sure, the teenager was rude, but throwing him off the train was totally uncalled for. He didn't deserve to be physically assaulted.

If he got off he wouldn't have been thrown off, he didn't use his noodle. Why should everybody else have to wait around for one dickhead to get off?.

JoseJones

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

There should be a law where you can throw some digs if someone uses "fighting words".

That sounds like fighting talk to me.

Sky King

**** on a Train - didn't Hitchcock direct that?

Teyla Emmagan

Well I'm happy. I hate seeing people think they can get away with treating anyone (and especially auld fellas just doing their job) like that.

Fair play to the Big Man!

Fear Uladh

IzzyWizzy wrote: »

I must be seeing a different video to everyone else. I see a conductor with an attitude and a bully who should have minded his own business. Sure, the teenager was rude, but throwing him off the train was totally uncalled for. He didn't deserve to be physically assaulted.

A conductor with an attitude?! FFS, it is his job to check tickets to make sure everyone has paid the right fare.

Some little knob has no right disturbing everyone elses journey.

Son Of A Vidic

IzzyWizzy wrote: »

He had no right no throw him off.

And certainly not before at least giving him a nice 'Glasgow Handshake' to help him on his way.